[RWP] Adrenalinn guitar pedal's sounds

Mon Sep 16 06:11:32 EDT 2013

I'm not too skilled on either, but I'd rather play midi files from a 
keyboard than from a guitar.
I only want midi pads to make guitar tracks more lush; and do what only 
synths can do in the background.
Yesterday I put a ground wire on my Zoom G2.1U, did a neat job with a 
solder lug under the nut on the pedal jack in back' with a wire going up 
to the steel and aluminum rack; where all the gear resides, which seems 
to have soaked up all the stray RF fields in this room; so hum is no 
longer a problem.
The little 9 volt wall wart transformer for the Zoom pedal was not 
internally well grounded, so that I would hear hum and buzz when on very 
high gain overdrive settings, but could touch the metal cover of the 
cable's plug; or touch the metal foot switches on the Zoom and all the 
hum and buzz would go away.
Amazing what a good ground our body provides!
I can only imagine how many different RF frequencies are buzzing through 
my body right now, and I don't even feel them.
So, now that it's properly grounded; the Zoom is good enough as a 
multi-effects unit and preamp for the guitar, then I got the plug 
version of Roger Linn's Adrenalinn to run in Reaper.
Adrenalinn does pretty things to guitar notes and chords, like delays 
that go through 32 step arpeggios that are way more sophisticated than 
the usual keyboard arpeggios.
You aren't intended to play fast lines; instead you just play slowly and 
provide room  for Adrenalinn to do its arpeggios and filter modulations.
Meanwhile, if I can get a software pitch-to-midi plug to bring in lush 
midi pads, behind the guitar; the tracks will be filled with plenty of 
beautiful sounds.
If I want a quick passage on a midi synth, I'd be inclined to just reach 
for a keyboard and play it there; so tracking from the guitar doesn't 
need to be fast, and doesn't even need to be polyphonic; but does need 
to be accurate to trigger midi pads in the right key.
Several of the software pitch-to-midi plugs I've collected have the 
option to restrict the midi output to a fixed scale, so it's 
theoretically impossible to get notes that glitch out of key.
I've just got to find time to test out the various pitch-to-midi plugs.
IntelliScore has been around for ages, used to transcribe a polyphonic 
audio track for printing out the score, but also outputs midi.
I have a couple more similar composing and scoring plugs, all  allow you 
to limit the scale of the midi they output.
Waves Tune, Antares Autotune; all track audio notes much better if told 
in advance what the intended scale is.
The pitch to midi plugs don't need a special pickup in the guitar, and 
cost about $59 USD to $89 USD, nothing compared to the Roland GR55.

On 9/16/2013 12:35 AM, TheOreoMonster wrote:
> I haven't played the GT100 but the GT10 still sounded very digital to my ears. Nothing wrong with that as i don't mind it for modulation and delays personally, but the distortions left me still feeling cold. THe new BOSS DA2 TE2 and MO2 may be up indie's alley though.
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> Collin is the other guitarist in your band blind?  The thing that concerned me about the GR55 was no computer control software just a libraian editor, the control software for the VG 88 seemed  accessible enough as i installed it to take aloof at it, but i did this without connecting a VG88. Things that worry me about them was doing the initial set up where you calibrated it for each string. Didn't know if that would be accessible. Also installing the GK3 pickup. even without the permanent install, how easy was it to get it to pick up all strings evenly? I read some horror stories where even experienced techs won't install the things anymore cuz they could never the the two highest strings to track properly.The plus of the GR55 over the VG88 is the GR55 is cheaper and already in foot pedal format. The VG88 however has two signal paths for the guitar modeling , where as the GR55 focus more on the synth sounds and only has one path for the guitar modeling.
> On Sep 13, 2013, at 8:46 AM, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
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>> I agree about the sounds of Roland gear, plenty fat.
>> I'm not just looking for the usual electric guitar sound, though.
>> I'm more interested in unusual stringed instrument sounds; between straight electric guitar and midi synth sounds.
>> Synths can supposedly make any sound, but there is so much going on inside a tightly stretched steel string you can get so many really beautiful sounds from within there.
>> For the usual shredding sounds;I already have Guitar Rig and all those modeling plugs.
>> I own the amazing synth Alchemy, where you can take electric guitar samples and stick them in Alchemy's folders, so that Alchemy creates fantasy stringed instruments from them, but you know; instead of just triggering stringed instrument sounds by pressing keys;  it's way more satisfying to directly pick, pluck, dampen, hammer, actual strings to get an infinity of interesting sounds from them.
>> One thing I've been meaning to do is to feed electric guitar through Native Instruments Absynth 5, which has an audio input.
>> You can apply any of Absynth 5's arpeggiators, filters, whatever to the guitar.
>> Sometimes I just dread encountering yet another VST where I can't get hold of  not just parameters, but graphical screen icons that let you navigate to features.
>> Since I got the $99 Novation Nocturn and AutoMap; I get  all automatable parameters from VST plugs, so all I need to do is to rotate 8 knobs or push 8 buttons on the Nocturn box, and sounds certainly change, but that's only part of real access to a plug.
>> To get at menus, lists, preset browsers, switches that turn arpeggiation on and off, and other such things, it still requires people like Steve Spamer to dig into the plug's interface and provide scripts.
>> Or, I just content myself with partial access, twist Nocturn's knobs and enjoy the sounds; and don't worry about what I can't get at.
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>> On 9/12/2013 1:25 PM, Monkey Pusher wrote:
>>> To my ears the boss stuff always sounded too digital. Honestly more
>>> nterested in the roland stuff since it has alternate tuning
>>> functionality. Also think the Roland GR55 may be closer to what u want
>>> with the Adrenalinn
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>>> On 9/11/13, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>>>> I just listened to a YouTube on navigating around the Roland GT100, and
>>>> it did seem that it should be accessible.
>>>> It has no menus, but has page keys, and you just move things from 1
>>>> screen to the other.
>>>> I didn't memorize the navigation, so can't explain it in detail, but the
>>>> reviewer thought it is super easy.
>>>> It's loaded with features, including USB to computer, plus an auxiliary
>>>>    out and in so you can add sounds from an external source.
>>>> What it doesn't seem to have is the sounds of the AdrenaLinn pedal,
>>>> which I love.
>>>> Indi
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>>>> On 9/11/2013 7:22 PM, TheOreoMonster wrote:
>>>>> Hey Collin, Can you contact me off list/would you be up for a Skype chat?
>>>>> been very interested in the Roland  GR55/VG88 stuff and the Boss stuff
>>>>> mentioned but they didn't seem accessible on the surface  Would love to
>>>>> know  more about what you know about the stuff
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>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> On Sep 11, 2013, at 1:31 PM, "Colin McDonald" <blulemon at telus.net> wrote:
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>>>>>> go a few hundred bucks more and pick up the roland gr-55 guitar synth.
>>>>>> it does allot more and is fairly accessible.
>>>>>> or, for around the same price as the roger linn, go with the roland/boss
>>>>>> gt100 which has all the harmonizer stuff in it along with a tonne of amp
>>>>>> and cab and even mike models to choose from.  again, very accessible to
>>>>>> use.
>>>>>> the gr-55 is an excellent studio tool for guitarists.  with many amp
>>>>>> models, cab models, mike models, mike placement options, along with all
>>>>>> the best roland synth models on board.  Yes, you do have to put the gk-3
>>>>>> pickup on your guitar, but that is a no brainer excersize...it's
>>>>>> seriously powerful.
>>>>>> but, if your budget is around that 400 dollar range, the gt10, or gt100
>>>>>> will fit the bill nicely with everything the roger linn has and far
>>>>>> more.
>>>>>> perhaps not quite the same level of drum options though, so if that's
>>>>>> what you are after, then it might not be quite what you need.  the boss
>>>>>> stuff is for guitarists more than anything.  but there is capability of
>>>>>> loading drums tracks on to the thing.
>>>>>> regards
>>>>>> Colin
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>>>>>> From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 11:05 AM
>>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>> Subject: [RWP] Adrenalinn guitar pedal's sounds
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Actually, Roger Linn intended this thing for electric guitar, bass, midi
>>>>>>> synth, and I'd run vocals through it, why not?
>>>>>>> Here's an Adrenalinn 3 demo from JamShop, Sweden, then below that is
>>>>>>> somebody having fun with modulation effects, and below that is my
>>>>>>> favorite, Lots of sound examples--hits and demos--of AdrenaLinn III.
>>>>>>> You get many of those arpeggios in the presets.
>>>>>>> This thing is as much synthesizer as guitar processor, and I doubt
>>>>>>> anyone could ever run to the end of all it can do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3hlgUIVxdY
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSy66E-VyOE
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>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfBDmw2H2Hw
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