[RWP] Adrenalinn guitar pedal's sounds

Fri Sep 13 07:47:25 EDT 2013

I'll try the youtubes demoing the GR-55.
I was not impressed with the sounds from the GT-100, though it did seem 
its simple layout would make it totally accessible, just didn't have 
warmth or interesting things it does to sounds.
I just checked out the Boss Sl-20 slicer, because someone said it could 
do all the AdrenaLinn can, and it's relatively crude; somewhat like an 
early arpeggiator that could only do up/down; down/up; with no accents 
or cyncopations.
I'm used to arpeggiations from the Yamaha MM6, which has chords and 
cyncopated phrases that it arpeggiates, plus I have the Casio XW-G1 
keyboard synth, which also has a complex modern arpeggiator, which 
includes phrases you play into the arpeggiator, chords, arpeggiates 
anything.
I haven't discovered a way to run audio fed into the audio input jack on 
the XW-G1 through its arpeggiator and phrase sequencer; or I'd use that 
for guitar.
I believe I'm better off right now using the VST version of the 
AdrenaLinn pedal.
I just found a polyphonic pitch-to-midi VST, called Midi Guitar, and 
downloaded the beta for Windows to give it a try.
I don't really want to play a synth note-by-note from the guitar, just 
have lush synth chords swell up behind guitar, so I'll delay it, which 
should give the pitch-to-midi plug plenty of time to calculate the 
guitar's pitch and get it right.
I listened to an early YouTube demoing Midi Guitar for iPad, and it 
sounded a little jerky, which could have been the guitarists fault, but 
I didn't hear it spit out any any out-of-key  notes.
Indi
On 9/12/2013 8:19 PM, Colin McDonald wrote:
> the gr-55 has it all man, seriously lol.  the gt100 does some good
> models like sitar and other stringed instruments as well though.
> my guitar player does the sax intro to turn the page by bob seager,
> using his 67 flying v and a gr-55 synth.  it's so realistic, it's scary.
> he has this other patch which is a tradditional sitar, with a 12 string
> guitar under it, with a synth pad and some reverb, echo and chorus.  and
> for about 700 bucks, including pickup, cheaper some places, it's a hell
> of a good dollar spent.
> but yeh, if the roger linn thing is what you are after, then that's what
> you gotta go with lol.
>
> regards
> Colin
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> From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 5:23 PM
> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
> Subject: Re: [RWP] Adrenalinn guitar pedal's sounds
>
>> I know, I've had Boss and Roland boxes since the late eighties.
>> I don't mean that their sound is digital, or sterile, just that the
>> only thing I hear from them is conventional electric guitar sounds,
>> while Roger Linn likes to provide synth-like sounds.
>> Actually, the AdrenaLinn pedal, and also the AdrenaLinn Sync VST, $99,
>> have ADSR envelopes, so you really can treat the guitar's notes as if
>> they came from a keyboard synth.You can swell the attack up, so you
>> get the reversed effect, lots of power in altering the sound's envelope.
>> Also, the filters in the AdrenaLinn's are very powerful.
>> I realize that many guitarists want their guitar to sound like a
>> guitar, which is okay, but I love the guitar when you can shape its
>> sound to be like a lute, or Indian Vina, or any number of fantasy
>> stringed instruments.
>> Maybe the Boss and Roland pedals have this too, but nobody seems to
>> demo it in the YouTubes.
>> I've decided not to bother with another pedal for now, but to use the
>> AdrenaLinn Sync VST, which is more advanced than the AdrenaLinn III
>> pedal anyway, and costs less.
>> I found the pedal for $324, but the plug is $99.
>> Indi
>>
>> On 9/12/2013 2:04 PM, Colin McDonald wrote:
>>> Boss is Roland, same company.
>>> I agree though, most of the early boss multi-effects units were kind of
>>> digital sounding.  the newest generations are very good though.
>>> Boss stomp boxes are mostly analogue with a few newer ones having
>>> modelling and what not.
>>> I have never found boss individual pedals to be digital sounding except
>>> the ones that are purposely made to sound digital.
>>> the alternate tuning works so well...the other guitar player in my band
>>> uses a gr-55 extensively.
>>>
>>>
>>> regards
>>> Colin
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Monkey Pusher" <monkeypusher69 at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:25 AM
>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Adrenalinn guitar pedal's sounds
>>>
>>>> To my ears the boss stuff always sounded too digital. Honestly more
>>>> nterested in the roland stuff since it has alternate tuning
>>>> functionality. Also think the Roland GR55 may be closer to what u want
>>>> with the Adrenalinn
>>>>
>>>> On 9/11/13, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>>>>> I just listened to a YouTube on navigating around the Roland GT100,
>>>>> and
>>>>> it did seem that it should be accessible.
>>>>> It has no menus, but has page keys, and you just move things from 1
>>>>> screen to the other.
>>>>> I didn't memorize the navigation, so can't explain it in detail,
>>>>> but the
>>>>> reviewer thought it is super easy.
>>>>> It's loaded with features, including USB to computer, plus an
>>>>> auxiliary
>>>>>   out and in so you can add sounds from an external source.
>>>>> What it doesn't seem to have is the sounds of the AdrenaLinn pedal,
>>>>> which I love.
>>>>> Indi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/11/2013 7:22 PM, TheOreoMonster wrote:
>>>>>> Hey Collin, Can you contact me off list/would you be up for a Skype
>>>>>> chat?
>>>>>> been very interested in the Roland  GR55/VG88 stuff and the Boss
>>>>>> stuff
>>>>>> mentioned but they didn't seem accessible on the surface  Would
>>>>>> love to
>>>>>> know  more about what you know about the stuff
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> On Sep 11, 2013, at 1:31 PM, "Colin McDonald" <blulemon at telus.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> go a few hundred bucks more and pick up the roland gr-55 guitar
>>>>>>> synth.
>>>>>>> it does allot more and is fairly accessible.
>>>>>>> or, for around the same price as the roger linn, go with the
>>>>>>> roland/boss
>>>>>>> gt100 which has all the harmonizer stuff in it along with a tonne
>>>>>>> of amp
>>>>>>> and cab and even mike models to choose from.  again, very
>>>>>>> accessible to
>>>>>>> use.
>>>>>>> the gr-55 is an excellent studio tool for guitarists.  with many amp
>>>>>>> models, cab models, mike models, mike placement options, along with
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>> the best roland synth models on board.  Yes, you do have to put the
>>>>>>> gk-3
>>>>>>> pickup on your guitar, but that is a no brainer excersize...it's
>>>>>>> seriously powerful.
>>>>>>> but, if your budget is around that 400 dollar range, the gt10, or
>>>>>>> gt100
>>>>>>> will fit the bill nicely with everything the roger linn has and far
>>>>>>> more.
>>>>>>> perhaps not quite the same level of drum options though, so if
>>>>>>> that's
>>>>>>> what you are after, then it might not be quite what you need.  the
>>>>>>> boss
>>>>>>> stuff is for guitarists more than anything.  but there is
>>>>>>> capability of
>>>>>>> loading drums tracks on to the thing.
>>>>>>> regards
>>>>>>> Colin
>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 11:05 AM
>>>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: [RWP] Adrenalinn guitar pedal's sounds
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Actually, Roger Linn intended this thing for electric guitar,
>>>>>>>> bass, midi
>>>>>>>> synth, and I'd run vocals through it, why not?
>>>>>>>> Here's an Adrenalinn 3 demo from JamShop, Sweden, then below
>>>>>>>> that is
>>>>>>>> somebody having fun with modulation effects, and below that is my
>>>>>>>> favorite, Lots of sound examples--hits and demos--of AdrenaLinn
>>>>>>>> III.
>>>>>>>> You get many of those arpeggios in the presets.
>>>>>>>> This thing is as much synthesizer as guitar processor, and I doubt
>>>>>>>> anyone could ever run to the end of all it can do.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3hlgUIVxdY
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSy66E-VyOE
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfBDmw2H2Hw
>>>>>>>>
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