[RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New User
Indigo
33indigo at charter.net
Thu Sep 12 19:04:24 EDT 2013
Reaper does come with a soft synth, called Reasynth, but it's a
rudimentary little thing.
Google for downloads of some better free synths on the web, or use that
basic Cakewalk synth, whatever it's called.
I know it runs in Reaper.
If you have Z3TA from Sonar, that's a pretty good synth, that might run
in Reaper.
Z3TA is a bit brassy and bright, but could work.
Indi
On 9/12/2013 6:31 PM, Keith Hinton wrote:
> Hi, folks:
> This question relates to software synths.
> You folks mentioned way back in the thread about spessifying where
> your plugins are, inside the Reaper prefferences.
> Well, what if you really don't have anything installed
> I thought Reaper came with it's own synths?
> Or do you need to grab a bunch of Vsts and install them in some place
> like c:\Program Files\Cakewalk\VSTPlugins
>
>
> On 9/12/13, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> Cool, I'm not using 3.78 at the moment but on 4.5 but I'm sure there's a
>> similar setting someplace for that.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Goldfinga Productions
>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 9:04 AM
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New User
>>
>>
>> Check out the defaults section under the projects portion of the tree
>> under preferences. You will find a nice little checkbox that says "Items
>> create automatic fade in/fade out for new items. That's a way to no longer
>> hear little fades when you split items. I was wondering why I kept hearing
>> little glitches when I would split items. I unchecked that box, and all is
>> well. Hope that helps someone…
>>
>>
>> On Sep 11, 2013, at 11:39 PM, "Chris Belle" <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Well, for some reason even though reaper does a nice job of playing
>> back,
>> > split items especially if you use the z to get 0 crossings, it still
>> sounds split in some cases, if you push amplitude changes too far, where as
>> automation doesn't.
>> >
>> > But for most practical purposes, it amounts to the same thing and
>> doesn't matter.
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Jim Snowbarger
>> > To: Reapers Without Peepers
>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:53 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New User
>> >
>> > My guess is that, when you split an audio item, nothing actually happens
>> to the signal. An item is just a set of control parameters, And, if two
>> adjacent items refer to adjacent parts of the audio file, I but there isn't
>> even any cross fading going on. It's like me telling you to count from 1 to
>> 3, and then count from 4 to 10. I wont' hear you jump from 3 to 4. Your
>> brain will concatenate automatically, and you'll count from 1 to 10, and
>> I'll believe you.
>> > The only down side is the need to press control+right Arrow more times
>> to get anywhere. But, hey.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Chris Belle
>> > To: Reapers Without Peepers
>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 7:06 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New User
>> >
>> > Well, at least with item based editing in reaper, you don't mess up
>> anything.
>> >
>> > It bothers me that we have to split audio to do things, even though it
>> works, and reaper's crossfades are very smooth, it's still technically not
>> cool to have to tear apart your audio just to do a little automation.
>> > Or get around, in other words, to my engineer's head it's better to bend
>> it than break it, even if you can fix it prety good.
>> > Just in midi, this concept will work better, because it won't be
>> necessary to cross-fade broken audio events.
>> >
>> > It's just a matter of grouping then more than any physical changes to
>> the actual data.
>> >
>> > Item based midi editing, ok then , this will help, the other shoe drops
>> 'grin'.
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: David P Shortland
>> > To: Reapers Without Peepers
>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 5:55 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New User
>> >
>> > Hi & Greetings from Down Under...
>> >
>> > Not as far as I have been abel to discover....
>> >
>> > It always seems to start at the beginning of the Event List...
>> >
>> > You can use Page Up & Page Down keys to jump 7 events at a time...
>> >
>> > However, the work around that I do for this one is if I need to edit
>> something that is say 16 bars into a Item.... I just do a split just before
>> the section I wish to edit and Voila when the new Item is opened you are
>> right there...
>> >
>> > The more I use REAPER ... the more I am getting to know how this Item
>> based Editing worx...
>> >
>> > ...and liking it...
>> >
>> > It does not matter to me whether a Trak has One Item, several items or
>> several thousand items,... at any given time you can Glue all the Items
>> together and each part retains what you have edited and you can start
>> again...
>> >
>> > Also just as a quick mention, which some of us may need to get our heads
>> around, is the concept of not having a dedicated SubGroup area.... the
>> flexibility that REAPER allows by being able to put anything anywhere and
>> being able to route anything to anywhere is simply in a word ... NICE!!!
>> >
>> > Anyway... on with the Editing...
>> >
>> >
>> > Kind regards
>> >
>> > David P Shortland
>> > DragonScore Productions
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: Chris Belle
>> > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 6:17 AM
>> > To: Reapers Without Peepers
>> > Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New User
>> >
>> > Hey, I have done that but is there an easy way to move between midi
>> events?
>> >
>> > I mean you can move along the time line, but in sonar it jumps through
>> all the extra time and immediately goes to the next midi event.
>> >
>> > Or do you have to go to the exact place on the time like for each midi
>> event?
>> >
>> > That was one thing killing me.
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: David P Shortland
>> > To: Reapers Without Peepers
>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 2:45 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New User
>> >
>> > Hi & Greetings again from Down Under
>> >
>> > Again, just a little addendum to Indy's post...
>> >
>> > Once you have selected the MIDI Item you wish to Edit
>> > Control plus Alt plus E opens the MIDI Editor...
>> >
>> > You only need to do this once but you need to go to the Options Menu (I
>>
>> > think) or it might be the View Menu...(apologies not sure which)
>> >
>> > Select Event List...
>> >
>> > You can scroll up and down the Event List with the cursor keys
>> >
>> > When you want to Edit an Event Focus on it and press Control plus F2
>> >
>> > This Opens the Event Item Dialog and yu can TAB around and change
>> whatever
>> > you wish...
>> >
>> > No need to go to the Apply or OK buttons just hit Enter when you have
>> > finished your Edit...
>> >
>> > Kind regards
>> >
>> > David P Shortland
>> > DragonScore Productions
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Indigo
>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:52 PM
>> > To: Reapers Without Peepers
>> > Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New User
>> >
>> > I used those ancient midi sequencers in dos or on the Atari ST; , like
>> > Voyettra Gold, Doctor T's Keyboard Midi Sequencer, all totally
>> > accessible, just punching in numbers, then I did midi from hardware
>> > sequencers, from Yamaha and the MMT8; then I edited midi from Sonar
>> > versions 4, 6, 7 and 8.5.3, and to me all editing at the event level is
>> > the most tedious, most boring thing I could imagine.
>> >
>> > I'd rather play in a passage a dozen times until I get it just right
>> > than chase down a single midi event and type in number values.
>> > But, for those who don't mind, I think Reaper's layout for getting at
>> > notes and every single note event possible at tab and arrow keys
>> > couldn't be more ideal.
>> > How could it be easier than having everything neately labeled and laid
>> > out at the taband arrow keys; where you can arrow to other note values,
>> > for instance, or type in different numbers for velocity, note length,
>> > pitch, program number, yada yada yada?
>> > One thing to note is that; when finished with editing; you need to tab
>> > to apply, and then hit enter; but there can be another step that might
>> > or might not be required.
>> > At certain places, you might need to find an OK button that needs to be
>> > clicked; after pressing enter on Apply takes you back to the track
>> view;
>> > so look out for that one.
>> > If anyone is not hearing their changes of values being applied to their
>> > music, go to your number pad and use your PC cursor slash mouse pointer
>> > slash object navigation to find that OK button, then left click it.
>> > I'll go search my collection and repost David Shortland's method of
>> > reaching the midi editor.
>> > By the way, since it's a different midi editor than the inline editor
>> > that Ivan's shortcut reached, maybe reaAccess is not doing anything to
>> > assist with access of David's midi editor, it's just screenreader
>> > friendly because Reaper is written that way, using Microsoft standard
>> > menus and controls.
>> > Indi
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 9/11/2013 4:51 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>> > > I'm really not a MIDI type, but sure, a repost of David's steps is
>> > > bound to help someone.
>> > >
>> > > Yeah, of course MIDI is MIDI is MIDI from DAW to DAW, but I'd wager
>> > > there would be neat little tips and tricks people use to speed up
>> > > editing which are specific to each one. Sometimes, just watching
>> > > someone else who's got a workflow down smashing through a task can be
>> > > quite inspiring.
>> > >
>> > > Scott
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 9/11/13, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>> > >> I'll dig out and post the guide to bringing up the midi editor,
>> David
>> > >> Shortland style, which is step-by-step to get inside the midi
>> editor,
>> > >> right down to the event list for each note of your music along the
>> > >> timeline.
>> > >> Anyone who has the least experience with editing midi events in
>> every
>> > >> sequencer or daw ever made should know that midi is midi; and it
>> isn't
>> > >> different in a different daw.
>> > >> Each event is clearly labeled in Reaper, in plain English, and if
>> you
>> > >> want to shorten or lengthen a note length, or move the note up or
>> down a
>> > >> list of chromatic notes, or shift it to another octave, or alter its
>> > >> velocity number, or move the note's position on the timeline, or a
>> > >> thousand other editing details; duh, what's so hard about that to
>> figure
>> > >> out?
>> > >> So, it's laid out differently from Voyettra Gold, or Sonar, or
>> ProTools,
>> > >> don't we all expect that?
>> > >> It's good for the health of our brain cells to exercise them,
>> otherwise
>> > >> we get to be an old dog that can't learn new tricks.
>> > >> When all note events are clearly labeled, all laid out very
>> conveniently
>> > >> at the tab keys, with edit fields at the arrow keys, what more could
>> > >> anyone ever hope for in access from a screenreader?
>> > >> Indi
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On 9/10/2013 8:15 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>> > >>> I've dropped Roy a line to see whether he'd have time to share some
>> > >>> wisdom. Just hit on the idea of spending a bit of time hanging out
>> > >>> with each of the people on here that are using Reaper to do cool
>> > >>> stuff, whatever their stuff may be. I'd interview them and record a
>> > >>> bit of them in action for an hour at most, then handle all the
>> boring
>> > >>> editing uploading headache stuff so they don't have too. Seems like
>> if
>> > >>> enough people are keen to be featured it'd make a neat little
>> podcast
>> > >>> series. I could justify putting the time into it seeing as I'd no
>> > >>> doubt learn a bunch of stuff along the way.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Let's see what happens. First time I've been excited about Reaper in
>> a
>> > >>> while, so I hope the response from Roy is positive so I can strike
>> > >>> while the iron is hot here.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Scott
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On 9/11/13, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> > >>>> Roy seems to have a leg up on some of the things we don't, bet he'd
>>
>> > >>>> help
>> > >>>> out
>> > >>>> if we approached him with a few clams.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> > >>>> From: Goldfinga Productions
>> > >>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>> > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 5:28 PM
>> > >>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New User
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> ah, well that is a hole new animal… I can do some of it, but I
>>
>> > >>>> would
>> > >>>> like
>> > >>>> to better edit stuff. Is there a person doing this already? Are
>> they
>> > >>>> giving
>> > >>>> lessons? lol
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On Sep 10, 2013, at 5:16 PM, "Chris Belle"
>> <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
>> > >>>> wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> > I mean doing detailed editing and such.
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> > Are you down with that, I can load up and play midi and
>> such,
>> > >>>> but
>> > >>>> detailed editing and nudging notes and doing transforms or search
>> and
>> > >>>> replace like the interpolate dialogue in sonar, that sort of
>> stuff.
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > >>>> > From: Goldfinga Productions
>> > >>>> > To: Reapers Without Peepers
>> > >>>> > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 3:44 PM
>> > >>>> > Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New User
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> > I use midi all the time with reaper…
>> > >>>> > That's why I have been all over poise, that's one less piece
>> of
>> > >>>> hardware
>> > >>>> that I have to hook up to the mixer. Now I can leave my npc at the
>> > >>>> church.
>> > >>>> lol.
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> > On Sep 10, 2013, at 4:41 PM, "Chris Belle"
>> <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
>> > >>>> wrote:
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> > > yeh, reaper
>> > >>>> > > isn't where sonar is but definitely useable,
>> > >>>> > > especially with straight audio.
>> > >>>> > >
>> > >>>> > > We're all gonna have to flip Roy a few sheckles and get him
>> to
>> > >>>> show us
>> > >>>> how he does midi with reaper,
>> > >>>> > > I just ain't figured it out yet.
>> > >>>> > >
>> > >>>> > > I mean I can do basics load a osft synth and hit the midi
>> > >>>> editor,
>> > >>>> > > and see some events and such, but it ain't anything like
>> sonar
>> > >>>> and
>> > >>>> there are no docs,
>> > >>>> > >
>> > >>>> > > We desperately need some serious docs shoing how to do
>> > >>>> everything.
>> > >>>> > >
>> > >>>> > >
>> > >>>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > >>>> > > From: Goldfinga Productions
>> > >>>> > > To: Reapers Without Peepers
>> > >>>> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 3:34 PM
>> > >>>> > > Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New
>> User
>> > >>>> > >
>> > >>>> > > That's exactly where I was going with that. lol. I use
>> reaper,
>> > >>>> hell,
>> > >>>> like I said in my last message, I paid for it.
>> > >>>> > >
>> > >>>> > > On Sep 10, 2013, at 4:25 PM, "Chris Belle"
>> > >>>> <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
>> > >>>> wrote:
>> > >>>> > >
>> > >>>> > > > I think GF was being humorous.
>> > >>>> > > >
>> > >>>> > > > I took it that way anyhow.
>> > >>>> > > >
>> > >>>> > > > Kind of how we get the shaft and the end of the line
>> > >>>> everywhere
>> > >>>> in
>> > >>>> the world and have to fight like dogs to not get left out,
>> > >>>> > > > but you know how it works in this world, money talks and
>> > >>>> bullshit
>> > >>>> walks.
>> > >>>> > > >
>> > >>>> > > > If there were 20 million blind reaper users ready to buy
>>
>> > >>>> access
>> > >>>> would be here next week 'grin'.
>> > >>>> > > >
>> > >>>> > > > For now we just have to cowboy up and do the best we
>> can.
>> > >>>> > > >
>> > >>>> > > >
>> > >>>> > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > >>>> > > > From: Scott Chesworth
>> > >>>> > > > To: Reapers Without Peepers
>> > >>>> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 1:10 PM
>> > >>>> > > > Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New
>> User
>> > >>>> > > >
>> > >>>> > > > Couple of points to keep in mind before you dig too deep
>> into
>> > >>>> slating
>> > >>>> > > > the Reaper developers in public...
>> > >>>> > > >
>> > >>>> > > > They are aware that a visually impaired userbase exists,
>> and
>> > >>>> have
>> > >>>> > > > gradually been exposing GUI elements over time. If you
>> need
>> > >>>> proof
>> > >>>> of
>> > >>>> > > > that, do some mousing around in Reaper on PC and see how
>> much
>> > >>>> NVDA
>> > >>>> > > > tells you, or compare how much is visible with VoiceOver
>> on
>> > >>>> Mac
>> > >>>> now
>> > >>>> > > > against a version from a couple years back. API bugs
>> that
>> > >>>> impacted
>> > >>>> > > > upon ReaAccess were fixed, and there have been a couple
>> of
>> > >>>> instances
>> > >>>> > > > where accessibility gets a mention in the changelogs. A
>> > >>>> couple
>> > >>>> of
>> > >>>> > > > people with decent track records of getting stuff done
>> are in
>> > >>>> contact
>> > >>>> > > > with Justin the lead developer, all be it sporadically.
>> > >>>> They're
>> > >>>> not
>> > >>>> > > > shouting from the rooftops about that, but when the
>> progress
>> > >>>> comes,
>> > >>>> it
>> > >>>> > > > happens in fits and starts and has been largely due to
>> nudges
>> > >>>> and
>> > >>>> > > > guidance from these key people. I think it's fair to say
>> that
>> > >>>> Cockos
>> > >>>> > > > have demonstrated that they're happy to help, but they
>> need
>> > >>>> guidance
>> > >>>> > > > and it needs to fit around their existing roadmap. I
>> think
>> > >>>> it's
>> > >>>> pretty
>> > >>>> > > > unfair to say we've been shafted. If you must find a home
>> for
>> > >>>> that
>> > >>>> > > > accusation, Ivan's your man. Tell him who sent you lol.
>> > >>>> > > >
>> > >>>> > > > Is the future certain? No. Then again, are their other
>> DAW
>> > >>>> developers
>> > >>>> > > > showing markedly less interest? You betcha.
>> > >>>> > > >
>> > >>>> > > > Nice idea re the NVDA team. Last time I approached Jamie
>>
>> > >>>> about
>> > >>>> Reaper
>> > >>>> > > > he was up to his ears in Sonar as his pet project, but
>> who
>> > >>>> knows,
>> > >>>> > > > someone else might have better luck catching him at the
>> right
>> > >>>> time.
>> > >>>> > > >
>> > >>>> > > > Scott
>> > >>>> > > >
>> > >>>> > > >
>> > >>>> > > > On 9/10/13, Goldfinga Productions <goldfingas at gmail.com>
>>
>> > >>>> wrote:
>> > >>>> > > > > Glad I could brighten your day with that one. lol.
>> > >>>> > > > >
>> > >>>> > > > > On Sep 10, 2013, at 9:18 AM, Keith Hinton
>> > >>>> <keithint1234 at gmail.com>
>> > >>>> wrote:
>> > >>>> > > > >
>> > >>>> > > > >> Muhahahahahahahhahaha! Cock OS! Oh dear! LOL Okay,
>> I'll
>> > >>>> stop
>> > >>>> laughing
>> > >>>> > > > >> now.
>> > >>>> > > > >> But yeah, I think we've got it for sure.
>> > >>>> > > > >>
>> > >>>> > > > >> On 9/10/13, Goldfinga Productions
>> <goldfingas at gmail.com>
>> > >>>> wrote:
>> > >>>> > > > >>> Remember folks, the developers of reaper call them
>> selves
>> > >>>> "cockos." If
>> > >>>> > > > >>> you
>> > >>>> > > > >>> break that down, it spells "cock OS." lol. I think we
>> got
>> > >>>> the
>> > >>>> shaft on
>> > >>>> > > > >>> this
>> > >>>> > > > >>> one.
>> > >>>> > > > >>>
>> > >>>> > > > >>>
>> > >>>> > > > >>>
>> > >>>> > > > >>> On Sep 10, 2013, at 8:37 AM, Keith Hinton
>> > >>>> <keithint1234 at gmail.com>
>> > >>>> > > > >>> wrote:
>> > >>>> > > > >>>
>> > >>>> > > > >>>> I can tel you, despite being new myself, that yes,
>> > >>>> ReaAccess
>> > >>>> has
>> > >>>> > > > >>>> always been (basicly) the accessibility pathway for
>>
>> > >>>> screen
>> > >>>> readers to
>> > >>>> > > > >>>> interface to Reaper.
>> > >>>> > > > >>>> The development has die out-last update was in
>> 2010.
>> > >>>> > > > >>>> A few folks have been able to use Reaper 4 with
>> > >>>> ReaAccess
>> > >>>> just
>> > >>>> > > > >>>> fine-looking up workarounds for things etc, but as
>> I
>> > >>>> understand
>> > >>>> it
>> > >>>> > > > >>>> your largely on your own with Reaper anyways.
>> > >>>> > > > >>>> Without ReaAccess, I do not believe any native
>> > >>>> accessibility
>> > >>>> exists in
>> > >>>> > > > >>>> Reaper itself.
>> > >>>> > > > >>>> However, again, I could be utterly wrong.
>> > >>>> > > > >>>> If others could reply to this new users question as
>>
>> > >>>> well,
>> > >>>> that
>> > >>>> might
>> > >>>> > > > >>>> help-but I believe I've answered it.
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>
>> > >>>> > > > >>>> On 9/10/13, Daveed Mandell <daveedm at sbcglobal.net>
>> > >>>> wrote:
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>> Hello:
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>>
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>> What is the status of Reaper accessibility right
>> now? I
>> > >>>> understand
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>> that
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>> Reaper's developers have shown little or no
>> interest in
>> > >>>> making
>> > >>>> the
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>> software
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>> accessible, and that accessibility has been
>> provided
>> > >>>> through
>> > >>>> a
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>> separate
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>> bridfe produced by blind people working from this
>> list
>> > >>>> and
>> > >>>> website. I
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>> also
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>> understand that the website itself isn't
>> functioning
>> > >>>> anymore
>> > >>>> due to
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>> problems
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>> related to spam. At any rate, is the latest version
>> of
>> > >>>> Reaper,
>> > >>>> version
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>> 4.5,
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>> accessible for blind folks? It is interesting to
>> note
>> > >>>> the
>> > >>>> difference
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>> in
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>> attitude between the developers of Reaper, versus
>> the
>> > >>>> developers of
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>> the
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>> free
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>> Audacity audio software, who have been very
>> > >>>> conscientiously
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>> integrating
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>> accessibility into the software. Thanks for any
>> updates
>> > >>>> and
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>> information
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>> regarding Reaper accessibility.
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>>
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>> Regards,
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>>
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>> Daveed Mandell
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>>
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>>
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>>
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>> _______________________________________________
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>> RWP mailing list
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>> RWP at reaaccess.com
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>>
>> http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>>
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>
>> > >>>> > > > >>>> --
>> > >>>> > > > >>>> Sincerely,
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>
>> > >>>> > > > >>>> Keith
>> > >>>> > > > >>>> Home Phone:
>> > >>>> > > > >>>> 928-554-3936
>> > >>>> > > > >>>> Mobile Phone:
>> > >>>> > > > >>>> 928-713-6370
>> > >>>> > > > >>>> Primary email:
>> > >>>> > > > >>>> keithint1234 at gmail.com
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>
>> > >>>> > > > >>>> _______________________________________________
>> > >>>> > > > >>>> RWP mailing list
>> > >>>> > > > >>>> RWP at reaaccess.com
>> > >>>> > > > >>>>
>> http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com
>> > >>>> > > > >>>
>> > >>>> > > > >>>
>> > >>>> > > > >>> GF
>> > >>>> > > > >>>
>> > >>>> > > > >>> Check me out on twitter
>> > >>>> > > > >>> http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas
>> > >>>> > > > >>>
>> > >>>> > > > >>>
>> > >>>> > > > >>>
>> > >>>> > > > >>> _______________________________________________
>> > >>>> > > > >>> RWP mailing list
>> > >>>> > > > >>> RWP at reaaccess.com
>> > >>>> > > > >>>
>> http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com
>> > >>>> > > > >>>
>> > >>>> > > > >>
>> > >>>> > > > >>
>> > >>>> > > > >> --
>> > >>>> > > > >> Sincerely,
>> > >>>> > > > >>
>> > >>>> > > > >> Keith
>> > >>>> > > > >> Home Phone:
>> > >>>> > > > >> 928-554-3936
>> > >>>> > > > >> Mobile Phone:
>> > >>>> > > > >> 928-713-6370
>> > >>>> > > > >> Primary email:
>> > >>>> > > > >> keithint1234 at gmail.com
>> > >>>> > > > >>
>> > >>>> > > > >> _______________________________________________
>> > >>>> > > > >> RWP mailing list
>> > >>>> > > > >> RWP at reaaccess.com
>> > >>>> > > > >>
>> http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com
>> > >>>> > > > >
>> > >>>> > > > >
>> > >>>> > > > > GF
>> > >>>> > > > >
>> > >>>> > > > > Check me out on twitter
>> > >>>> > > > > http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas
>> > >>>> > > > >
>> > >>>> > > > >
>> > >>>> > > > >
>> > >>>> > > > > _______________________________________________
>> > >>>> > > > > RWP mailing list
>> > >>>> > > > > RWP at reaaccess.com
>> > >>>> > > > >
>> http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com
>> > >>>> > > > >
>> > >>>> > > >
>> > >>>> > > > _______________________________________________
>> > >>>> > > > RWP mailing list
>> > >>>> > > > RWP at reaaccess.com
>> > >>>> > > > http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com
>> > >>>> > > > _______________________________________________
>> > >>>> > > > RWP mailing list
>> > >>>> > > > RWP at reaaccess.com
>> > >>>> > > > http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com
>> > >>>> > >
>> > >>>> > >
>> > >>>> > > GF
>> > >>>> > >
>> > >>>> > > Check me out on twitter
>> > >>>> > > http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas
>> > >>>> > >
>> > >>>> > >
>> > >>>> > >
>> > >>>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > >>>> > > RWP mailing list
>> > >>>> > > RWP at reaaccess.com
>> > >>>> > > http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com
>> > >>>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > >>>> > > RWP mailing list
>> > >>>> > > RWP at reaaccess.com
>> > >>>> > > http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> > GF
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> > Check me out on twitter
>> > >>>> > http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________
>> > >>>> > RWP mailing list
>> > >>>> > RWP at reaaccess.com
>> > >>>> > http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com
>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________
>> > >>>> > RWP mailing list
>> > >>>> > RWP at reaaccess.com
>> > >>>> > http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> GF
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Check me out on twitter
>> > >>>> http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> _______________________________________________
>> > >>>> RWP mailing list
>> > >>>> RWP at reaaccess.com
>> > >>>> http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com
>> > >>>
>> > >>> _______________________________________________
>> > >>> RWP mailing list
>> > >>> RWP at reaaccess.com
>> > >>> http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> > >> _______________________________________________
>> > >> RWP mailing list
>> > >> RWP at reaaccess.com
>> > >> http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > RWP mailing list
>> > > RWP at reaaccess.com
>> > > http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com
>> > >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > RWP mailing list
>> > RWP at reaaccess.com
>> > http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > RWP mailing list
>> > RWP at reaaccess.com
>> > http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > RWP mailing list
>> > RWP at reaaccess.com
>> > http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > RWP mailing list
>> > RWP at reaaccess.com
>> > http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > RWP mailing list
>> > RWP at reaaccess.com
>> > http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > RWP mailing list
>> > RWP at reaaccess.com
>> > http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > RWP mailing list
>> > RWP at reaaccess.com
>> > http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com
>>
>>
>> GF
>>
>> Check me out on twitter
>> http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> RWP mailing list
>> RWP at reaaccess.com
>> http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com
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