[RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New User
Goldfinga Productions
goldfingas at gmail.com
Thu Sep 12 09:54:20 EDT 2013
There is an option where you can have no crossfades when splitting items. I love that setting… When you split, you don't hear the little glitch that you would normally hear when splitting items…
On Sep 12, 2013, at 4:29 AM, Scott Chesworth <scottchesworth at gmail.com> wrote:
> Chris, what have you got your default crossfade length set to? Sounds
> to me like you're hearing the default length of 00:00.010, which is
> way too long IMO considering that Reaper isn't smart enough yet to
> know when it's actually necessary and will apply it whenever you make
> any sort of cut so you end up with little gaps all over the shop if
> you have any redundant splits. If I'm doing a ton of editing and know
> crossfades are gonna be heavily used, I usually embrace the madness of
> having them on every split but drop my setting back to something like
> 00:00.003, which does a pretty good job of zapping clicks and pops but
> is barely noticeable to my ears. If you're more sensitive to that
> sound than I am, you might want to just abandon having a default
> crossfade altogether and look after each split manually.
>
> Probably also worth pointing out that Jim is spot on, none of this
> stuff is applied distructively unless you choose for that to be so by
> gluing items, rendering a version complete with processing etc.
>
> Scott
>
>
> On 9/12/13, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> Well, for some reason even though reaper does a nice job of playing back,
>> split items especially if you use the z to get 0 crossings, it still sounds
>> split in some cases, if you push amplitude changes too far, where as
>> automation doesn't.
>>
>> But for most practical purposes, it amounts to the same thing and doesn't
>> matter.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Jim Snowbarger
>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New User
>>
>>
>> My guess is that, when you split an audio item, nothing actually happens
>> to the signal. An item is just a set of control parameters, And, if two
>> adjacent items refer to adjacent parts of the audio file, I but there isn't
>> even any cross fading going on. It's like me telling you to count from 1 to
>> 3, and then count from 4 to 10. I wont' hear you jump from 3 to 4. Your
>> brain will concatenate automatically, and you'll count from 1 to 10, and
>> I'll believe you.
>> The only down side is the need to press control+right Arrow more times to
>> get anywhere. But, hey.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Chris Belle
>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 7:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New User
>>
>>
>> Well, at least with item based editing in reaper, you don't mess up
>> anything.
>>
>> It bothers me that we have to split audio to do things, even though it
>> works, and reaper's crossfades are very smooth, it's still technically not
>> cool to have to tear apart your audio just to do a little automation.
>> Or get around, in other words, to my engineer's head it's better to bend
>> it than break it, even if you can fix it prety good.
>> Just in midi, this concept will work better, because it won't be
>> necessary to cross-fade broken audio events.
>>
>> It's just a matter of grouping then more than any physical changes to
>> the actual data.
>>
>> Item based midi editing, ok then , this will help, the other shoe drops
>> 'grin'.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: David P Shortland
>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 5:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New User
>>
>>
>> Hi & Greetings from Down Under...
>>
>> Not as far as I have been abel to discover....
>>
>> It always seems to start at the beginning of the Event List...
>>
>> You can use Page Up & Page Down keys to jump 7 events at a time...
>>
>> However, the work around that I do for this one is if I need to edit
>> something that is say 16 bars into a Item.... I just do a split just before
>> the section I wish to edit and Voila when the new Item is opened you are
>> right there...
>>
>> The more I use REAPER ... the more I am getting to know how this Item
>> based Editing worx...
>>
>> ...and liking it...
>>
>> It does not matter to me whether a Trak has One Item, several items or
>> several thousand items,... at any given time you can Glue all the Items
>> together and each part retains what you have edited and you can start
>> again...
>>
>> Also just as a quick mention, which some of us may need to get our
>> heads around, is the concept of not having a dedicated SubGroup area.... the
>> flexibility that REAPER allows by being able to put anything anywhere and
>> being able to route anything to anywhere is simply in a word ... NICE!!!
>>
>> Anyway... on with the Editing...
>>
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> David P Shortland
>> DragonScore Productions
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Chris Belle
>> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 6:17 AM
>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New User
>>
>> Hey, I have done that but is there an easy way to move between midi
>> events?
>>
>> I mean you can move along the time line, but in sonar it jumps through
>> all the extra time and immediately goes to the next midi event.
>>
>> Or do you have to go to the exact place on the time like for each midi
>> event?
>>
>> That was one thing killing me.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: David P Shortland
>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 2:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New User
>>
>> Hi & Greetings again from Down Under
>>
>> Again, just a little addendum to Indy's post...
>>
>> Once you have selected the MIDI Item you wish to Edit
>> Control plus Alt plus E opens the MIDI Editor...
>>
>> You only need to do this once but you need to go to the Options Menu
>> (I
>> think) or it might be the View Menu...(apologies not sure which)
>>
>> Select Event List...
>>
>> You can scroll up and down the Event List with the cursor keys
>>
>> When you want to Edit an Event Focus on it and press Control plus
>> F2
>>
>> This Opens the Event Item Dialog and yu can TAB around and change
>> whatever
>> you wish...
>>
>> No need to go to the Apply or OK buttons just hit Enter when you
>> have
>> finished your Edit...
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> David P Shortland
>> DragonScore Productions
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Indigo
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:52 PM
>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New User
>>
>> I used those ancient midi sequencers in dos or on the Atari ST; ,
>> like
>> Voyettra Gold, Doctor T's Keyboard Midi Sequencer, all totally
>> accessible, just punching in numbers, then I did midi from hardware
>> sequencers, from Yamaha and the MMT8; then I edited midi from Sonar
>> versions 4, 6, 7 and 8.5.3, and to me all editing at the event level
>> is
>> the most tedious, most boring thing I could imagine.
>>
>> I'd rather play in a passage a dozen times until I get it just
>> right
>> than chase down a single midi event and type in number values.
>> But, for those who don't mind, I think Reaper's layout for getting
>> at
>> notes and every single note event possible at tab and arrow keys
>> couldn't be more ideal.
>> How could it be easier than having everything neately labeled and
>> laid
>> out at the taband arrow keys; where you can arrow to other note
>> values,
>> for instance, or type in different numbers for velocity, note
>> length,
>> pitch, program number, yada yada yada?
>> One thing to note is that; when finished with editing; you need to
>> tab
>> to apply, and then hit enter; but there can be another step that
>> might
>> or might not be required.
>> At certain places, you might need to find an OK button that needs to
>> be
>> clicked; after pressing enter on Apply takes you back to the track
>> view;
>> so look out for that one.
>> If anyone is not hearing their changes of values being applied to
>> their
>> music, go to your number pad and use your PC cursor slash mouse
>> pointer
>> slash object navigation to find that OK button, then left click it.
>> I'll go search my collection and repost David Shortland's method of
>> reaching the midi editor.
>> By the way, since it's a different midi editor than the inline
>> editor
>> that Ivan's shortcut reached, maybe reaAccess is not doing anything
>> to
>> assist with access of David's midi editor, it's just screenreader
>> friendly because Reaper is written that way, using Microsoft
>> standard
>> menus and controls.
>> Indi
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/11/2013 4:51 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>> I'm really not a MIDI type, but sure, a repost of David's steps
>> is
>>> bound to help someone.
>>>
>>> Yeah, of course MIDI is MIDI is MIDI from DAW to DAW, but I'd
>> wager
>>> there would be neat little tips and tricks people use to speed up
>>> editing which are specific to each one. Sometimes, just watching
>>> someone else who's got a workflow down smashing through a task can
>> be
>>> quite inspiring.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/11/13, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>>>> I'll dig out and post the guide to bringing up the midi editor,
>> David
>>>> Shortland style, which is step-by-step to get inside the midi
>> editor,
>>>> right down to the event list for each note of your music along
>> the
>>>> timeline.
>>>> Anyone who has the least experience with editing midi events in
>> every
>>>> sequencer or daw ever made should know that midi is midi; and it
>> isn't
>>>> different in a different daw.
>>>> Each event is clearly labeled in Reaper, in plain English, and if
>> you
>>>> want to shorten or lengthen a note length, or move the note up or
>> down a
>>>> list of chromatic notes, or shift it to another octave, or alter
>> its
>>>> velocity number, or move the note's position on the timeline, or
>> a
>>>> thousand other editing details; duh, what's so hard about that to
>> figure
>>>> out?
>>>> So, it's laid out differently from Voyettra Gold, or Sonar, or
>> ProTools,
>>>> don't we all expect that?
>>>> It's good for the health of our brain cells to exercise them,
>> otherwise
>>>> we get to be an old dog that can't learn new tricks.
>>>> When all note events are clearly labeled, all laid out very
>> conveniently
>>>> at the tab keys, with edit fields at the arrow keys, what more
>> could
>>>> anyone ever hope for in access from a screenreader?
>>>> Indi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/10/2013 8:15 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>>>> I've dropped Roy a line to see whether he'd have time to share
>> some
>>>>> wisdom. Just hit on the idea of spending a bit of time hanging
>> out
>>>>> with each of the people on here that are using Reaper to do
>> cool
>>>>> stuff, whatever their stuff may be. I'd interview them and
>> record a
>>>>> bit of them in action for an hour at most, then handle all the
>> boring
>>>>> editing uploading headache stuff so they don't have too. Seems
>> like if
>>>>> enough people are keen to be featured it'd make a neat little
>> podcast
>>>>> series. I could justify putting the time into it seeing as I'd
>> no
>>>>> doubt learn a bunch of stuff along the way.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's see what happens. First time I've been excited about
>> Reaper in a
>>>>> while, so I hope the response from Roy is positive so I can
>> strike
>>>>> while the iron is hot here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Scott
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/11/13, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Roy seems to have a leg up on some of the things we don't, bet
>> he'd
>>>>>> help
>>>>>> out
>>>>>> if we approached him with a few clams.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Goldfinga Productions
>>>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 5:28 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New
>> User
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ah, well that is a hole new animal… I can do some of it,
>> but I
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> to better edit stuff. Is there a person doing this already? Are
>> they
>>>>>> giving
>>>>>> lessons? lol
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2013, at 5:16 PM, "Chris Belle"
>> <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I mean doing detailed editing and such.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you down with that, I can load up and play midi and
>> such,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> detailed editing and nudging notes and doing transforms or
>> search and
>>>>>> replace like the interpolate dialogue in sonar, that sort of
>> stuff.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: Goldfinga Productions
>>>>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 3:44 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New
>> User
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I use midi all the time with reaper…
>>>>>>> That's why I have been all over poise, that's one less
>> piece of
>>>>>> hardware
>>>>>> that I have to hook up to the mixer. Now I can leave my npc at
>> the
>>>>>> church.
>>>>>> lol.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2013, at 4:41 PM, "Chris Belle"
>> <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> yeh, reaper
>>>>>>>> isn't where sonar is but definitely useable,
>>>>>>>> especially with straight audio.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We're all gonna have to flip Roy a few sheckles and get
>> him to
>>>>>> show us
>>>>>> how he does midi with reaper,
>>>>>>>> I just ain't figured it out yet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I mean I can do basics load a osft synth and hit the
>> midi
>>>>>> editor,
>>>>>>>> and see some events and such, but it ain't anything
>> like sonar
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> there are no docs,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We desperately need some serious docs shoing how to do
>>>>>> everything.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: Goldfinga Productions
>>>>>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 3:34 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New
>> User
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's exactly where I was going with that. lol. I use
>> reaper,
>>>>>> hell,
>>>>>> like I said in my last message, I paid for it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2013, at 4:25 PM, "Chris Belle"
>>>>>> <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think GF was being humorous.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I took it that way anyhow.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kind of how we get the shaft and the end of the line
>>
>>>>>> everywhere
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> the world and have to fight like dogs to not get left out,
>>>>>>>>> but you know how it works in this world, money talks
>> and
>>>>>> bullshit
>>>>>> walks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If there were 20 million blind reaper users ready to
>> buy
>>>>>> access
>>>>>> would be here next week 'grin'.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For now we just have to cowboy up and do the best we
>> can.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: Scott Chesworth
>>>>>>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 1:10 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from
>> New User
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Couple of points to keep in mind before you dig too
>> deep into
>>>>>> slating
>>>>>>>>> the Reaper developers in public...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They are aware that a visually impaired userbase
>> exists, and
>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> gradually been exposing GUI elements over time. If
>> you need
>>>>>> proof
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> that, do some mousing around in Reaper on PC and see
>> how much
>>>>>> NVDA
>>>>>>>>> tells you, or compare how much is visible with
>> VoiceOver on
>>>>>> Mac
>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>> against a version from a couple years back. API bugs
>> that
>>>>>> impacted
>>>>>>>>> upon ReaAccess were fixed, and there have been a
>> couple of
>>>>>> instances
>>>>>>>>> where accessibility gets a mention in the changelogs.
>> A
>>>>>> couple
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> people with decent track records of getting stuff
>> done are in
>>>>>> contact
>>>>>>>>> with Justin the lead developer, all be it
>> sporadically.
>>>>>> They're
>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> shouting from the rooftops about that, but when the
>> progress
>>>>>> comes,
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> happens in fits and starts and has been largely due
>> to nudges
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> guidance from these key people. I think it's fair to
>> say that
>>>>>> Cockos
>>>>>>>>> have demonstrated that they're happy to help, but
>> they need
>>>>>> guidance
>>>>>>>>> and it needs to fit around their existing roadmap. I
>> think
>>>>>> it's
>>>>>> pretty
>>>>>>>>> unfair to say we've been shafted. If you must find a
>> home for
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> accusation, Ivan's your man. Tell him who sent you
>> lol.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is the future certain? No. Then again, are their
>> other DAW
>>>>>> developers
>>>>>>>>> showing markedly less interest? You betcha.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nice idea re the NVDA team. Last time I approached
>> Jamie
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> Reaper
>>>>>>>>> he was up to his ears in Sonar as his pet project,
>> but who
>>>>>> knows,
>>>>>>>>> someone else might have better luck catching him at
>> the right
>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 9/10/13, Goldfinga Productions
>> <goldfingas at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Glad I could brighten your day with that one. lol.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2013, at 9:18 AM, Keith Hinton
>>>>>> <keithint1234 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Muhahahahahahahhahaha! Cock OS! Oh dear! LOL Okay,
>> I'll
>>>>>> stop
>>>>>> laughing
>>>>>>>>>>> now.
>>>>>>>>>>> But yeah, I think we've got it for sure.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/10/13, Goldfinga Productions
>> <goldfingas at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Remember folks, the developers of reaper call
>> them selves
>>>>>> "cockos." If
>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>> break that down, it spells "cock OS." lol. I
>> think we got
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> shaft on
>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>> one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2013, at 8:37 AM, Keith Hinton
>>>>>> <keithint1234 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can tel you, despite being new myself, that
>> yes,
>>>>>> ReaAccess
>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>>> always been (basicly) the accessibility pathway
>> for
>>>>>> screen
>>>>>> readers to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> interface to Reaper.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The development has die out-last update was in
>> 2010.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A few folks have been able to use Reaper 4 with
>>
>>>>>> ReaAccess
>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine-looking up workarounds for things etc, but
>> as I
>>>>>> understand
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> your largely on your own with Reaper anyways.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Without ReaAccess, I do not believe any native
>>>>>> accessibility
>>>>>> exists in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reaper itself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, again, I could be utterly wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If others could reply to this new users question
>> as
>>>>>> well,
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>>>>>>> help-but I believe I've answered it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/10/13, Daveed Mandell
>> <daveedm at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is the status of Reaper accessibility
>> right now? I
>>>>>> understand
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reaper's developers have shown little or no
>> interest in
>>>>>> making
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accessible, and that accessibility has been
>> provided
>>>>>> through
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> separate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bridfe produced by blind people working from
>> this list
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> website. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand that the website itself isn't
>> functioning
>>>>>> anymore
>>>>>> due to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problems
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related to spam. At any rate, is the latest
>> version of
>>>>>> Reaper,
>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.5,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accessible for blind folks? It is interesting
>> to note
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> difference
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attitude between the developers of Reaper,
>> versus the
>>>>>> developers of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Audacity audio software, who have been very
>>>>>> conscientiously
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrating
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accessibility into the software. Thanks for any
>> updates
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regarding Reaper accessibility.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daveed Mandell
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keith
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Home Phone:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 928-554-3936
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mobile Phone:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 928-713-6370
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Primary email:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> keithint1234 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> GF
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Check me out on twitter
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Keith
>>>>>>>>>>> Home Phone:
>>>>>>>>>>> 928-554-3936
>>>>>>>>>>> Mobile Phone:
>>>>>>>>>>> 928-713-6370
>>>>>>>>>>> Primary email:
>>>>>>>>>>> keithint1234 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> GF
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Check me out on twitter
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> GF
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Check me out on twitter
>>>>>>>> http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> GF
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Check me out on twitter
>>>>>>> http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> GF
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Check me out on twitter
>>>>>> http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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