[RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New User
Steve Spamer
steve at vipaudioaccess.com
Thu Sep 12 07:50:50 EDT 2013
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cheers steve.
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-----Original Message-----
From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Scott Chesworth
Sent: 11 September 2013 02:18
To: Reapers Without Peepers
Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New User
Boom, there ya go folks, you'd get the content in half the time and it'd be
twice as nice with Patrick working his magic.
I'd gladly do one on mixing, some of the workarounds I use for features I
wish were available in ReaAccess, conventions I use to keep track of what's
going on and all that boring stuff.
I know the Cavicasts covered the basics of creating tracks, recording audio
and loading plugs etc, but it might be good to have a more concise version
of that stuff too. Concise as in 10-15 minutes max to get you up and running
from ground zero, rather than 3 hours. Not knocking the cavi content at all,
it's great, but I know I would've welcomed something with a few less rabbit
holes when I was Reacurious.
Scott
On 9/11/13, Patrick Perdue <patrick at pdaudio.net> wrote:
> My business is podcast post-production (yes, I do it mostly with
> Reaper,) so I'll be happy to lend myself to this project. I'll also do
> everything in my power to avoid the use of Skype, or, if Skype must be
> used, coordinate things such that it isn't obvious that it was ever
> involved.
>
> On 9/10/2013 8:15 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>> I've dropped Roy a line to see whether he'd have time to share some
>> wisdom. Just hit on the idea of spending a bit of time hanging out
>> with each of the people on here that are using Reaper to do cool
>> stuff, whatever their stuff may be. I'd interview them and record a
>> bit of them in action for an hour at most, then handle all the boring
>> editing uploading headache stuff so they don't have too. Seems like
>> if enough people are keen to be featured it'd make a neat little
>> podcast series. I could justify putting the time into it seeing as
>> I'd no doubt learn a bunch of stuff along the way.
>>
>> Let's see what happens. First time I've been excited about Reaper in
>> a while, so I hope the response from Roy is positive so I can strike
>> while the iron is hot here.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On 9/11/13, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> Roy seems to have a leg up on some of the things we don't, bet he'd
>>> help out if we approached him with a few clams.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Goldfinga Productions
>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 5:28 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New User
>>>
>>>
>>> ah, well that is a hole new animal. I can do some of it, but I
>>> would like to better edit stuff. Is there a person doing this
>>> already? Are they giving lessons? lol
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 10, 2013, at 5:16 PM, "Chris Belle" <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > I mean doing detailed editing and such.
>>> >
>>> > Are you down with that, I can load up and play midi and such,
>>> but detailed editing and nudging notes and doing transforms or
>>> search and replace like the interpolate dialogue in sonar, that sort of
stuff.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: Goldfinga Productions
>>> > To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 3:44 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New User
>>> >
>>> > I use midi all the time with reaper.
>>> > That's why I have been all over poise, that's one less piece of
>>> hardware that I have to hook up to the mixer. Now I can leave my npc
>>> at the church.
>>> lol.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sep 10, 2013, at 4:41 PM, "Chris Belle"
>>> <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > yeh, reaper
>>> > > isn't where sonar is but definitely useable,
>>> > > especially with straight audio.
>>> > >
>>> > > We're all gonna have to flip Roy a few sheckles and get him
>>> to show us how he does midi with reaper,
>>> > > I just ain't figured it out yet.
>>> > >
>>> > > I mean I can do basics load a osft synth and hit the midi editor,
>>> > > and see some events and such, but it ain't anything like
>>> sonar and there are no docs,
>>> > >
>>> > > We desperately need some serious docs shoing how to do
>>> everything.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > > From: Goldfinga Productions
>>> > > To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 3:34 PM
>>> > > Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New User
>>> > >
>>> > > That's exactly where I was going with that. lol. I use
>>> reaper, hell, like I said in my last message, I paid for it.
>>> > >
>>> > > On Sep 10, 2013, at 4:25 PM, "Chris Belle"
>>> <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > I think GF was being humorous.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I took it that way anyhow.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Kind of how we get the shaft and the end of the line
>>> everywhere in the world and have to fight like dogs to not get left
>>> out,
>>> > > > but you know how it works in this world, money talks and
>>> bullshit walks.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > If there were 20 million blind reaper users ready to buy
>>> access would be here next week 'grin'.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > For now we just have to cowboy up and do the best we can.
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > > > From: Scott Chesworth
>>> > > > To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 1:10 PM
>>> > > > Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New User
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Couple of points to keep in mind before you dig too deep
>>> into slating
>>> > > > the Reaper developers in public...
>>> > > >
>>> > > > They are aware that a visually impaired userbase exists,
>>> and have
>>> > > > gradually been exposing GUI elements over time. If you need
>>> proof of
>>> > > > that, do some mousing around in Reaper on PC and see how
>>> much NVDA
>>> > > > tells you, or compare how much is visible with VoiceOver on
>>> Mac now
>>> > > > against a version from a couple years back. API bugs that
>>> impacted
>>> > > > upon ReaAccess were fixed, and there have been a couple of
>>> instances
>>> > > > where accessibility gets a mention in the changelogs. A
>>> couple of
>>> > > > people with decent track records of getting stuff done are
>>> in contact
>>> > > > with Justin the lead developer, all be it sporadically.
>>> They're not
>>> > > > shouting from the rooftops about that, but when the
>>> progress comes, it
>>> > > > happens in fits and starts and has been largely due to
>>> nudges and
>>> > > > guidance from these key people. I think it's fair to say
>>> that Cockos
>>> > > > have demonstrated that they're happy to help, but they need
>>> guidance
>>> > > > and it needs to fit around their existing roadmap. I think
>>> it's pretty
>>> > > > unfair to say we've been shafted. If you must find a home
>>> for that
>>> > > > accusation, Ivan's your man. Tell him who sent you lol.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Is the future certain? No. Then again, are their other DAW
>>> developers
>>> > > > showing markedly less interest? You betcha.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Nice idea re the NVDA team. Last time I approached Jamie
>>> about Reaper
>>> > > > he was up to his ears in Sonar as his pet project, but who
>>> knows,
>>> > > > someone else might have better luck catching him at the
>>> right time.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Scott
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > On 9/10/13, Goldfinga Productions <goldfingas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > > > > Glad I could brighten your day with that one. lol.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > On Sep 10, 2013, at 9:18 AM, Keith Hinton
>>> <keithint1234 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >> Muhahahahahahahhahaha! Cock OS! Oh dear! LOL Okay, I'll
>>> stop laughing
>>> > > > >> now.
>>> > > > >> But yeah, I think we've got it for sure.
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> On 9/10/13, Goldfinga Productions <goldfingas at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > > > >>> Remember folks, the developers of reaper call them
>>> selves "cockos." If
>>> > > > >>> you
>>> > > > >>> break that down, it spells "cock OS." lol. I think we
>>> got the shaft on
>>> > > > >>> this
>>> > > > >>> one.
>>> > > > >>>
>>> > > > >>>
>>> > > > >>>
>>> > > > >>> On Sep 10, 2013, at 8:37 AM, Keith Hinton
>>> <keithint1234 at gmail.com>
>>> > > > >>> wrote:
>>> > > > >>>
>>> > > > >>>> I can tel you, despite being new myself, that yes,
>>> ReaAccess has
>>> > > > >>>> always been (basicly) the accessibility pathway for
>>> screen readers to
>>> > > > >>>> interface to Reaper.
>>> > > > >>>> The development has die out-last update was in 2010.
>>> > > > >>>> A few folks have been able to use Reaper 4 with
>>> ReaAccess just
>>> > > > >>>> fine-looking up workarounds for things etc, but as I
>>> understand it
>>> > > > >>>> your largely on your own with Reaper anyways.
>>> > > > >>>> Without ReaAccess, I do not believe any native
>>> accessibility exists in
>>> > > > >>>> Reaper itself.
>>> > > > >>>> However, again, I could be utterly wrong.
>>> > > > >>>> If others could reply to this new users question as
>>> well, that might
>>> > > > >>>> help-but I believe I've answered it.
>>> > > > >>>>
>>> > > > >>>>
>>> > > > >>>> On 9/10/13, Daveed Mandell <daveedm at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> > > > >>>>> Hello:
>>> > > > >>>>>
>>> > > > >>>>> What is the status of Reaper accessibility right now?
>>> I understand
>>> > > > >>>>> that
>>> > > > >>>>> Reaper's developers have shown little or no interest
>>> in making the
>>> > > > >>>>> software
>>> > > > >>>>> accessible, and that accessibility has been provided
>>> through a
>>> > > > >>>>> separate
>>> > > > >>>>> bridfe produced by blind people working from this
>>> list and website. I
>>> > > > >>>>> also
>>> > > > >>>>> understand that the website itself isn't functioning
>>> anymore due to
>>> > > > >>>>> problems
>>> > > > >>>>> related to spam. At any rate, is the latest version
>>> of Reaper, version
>>> > > > >>>>> 4.5,
>>> > > > >>>>> accessible for blind folks? It is interesting to note
>>> the difference
>>> > > > >>>>> in
>>> > > > >>>>> attitude between the developers of Reaper, versus the
>>> developers of
>>> > > > >>>>> the
>>> > > > >>>>> free
>>> > > > >>>>> Audacity audio software, who have been very
>>> conscientiously
>>> > > > >>>>> integrating
>>> > > > >>>>> accessibility into the software. Thanks for any
>>> updates and
>>> > > > >>>>> information
>>> > > > >>>>> regarding Reaper accessibility.
>>> > > > >>>>>
>>> > > > >>>>> Regards,
>>> > > > >>>>>
>>> > > > >>>>> Daveed Mandell
>>> > > > >>>>>
>>> > > > >>>>>
>>> > > > >>>>>
>>> > > > >>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> > > > >>>>>
>>> > > > >>>>
>>> > > > >>>>
>>> > > > >>>> --
>>> > > > >>>> Sincerely,
>>> > > > >>>>
>>> > > > >>>> Keith
>>> > > > >>>> Home Phone:
>>> > > > >>>> 928-554-3936
>>> > > > >>>> Mobile Phone:
>>> > > > >>>> 928-713-6370
>>> > > > >>>> Primary email:
>>> > > > >>>> keithint1234 at gmail.com
>>> > > > >>>>
>>> > > > >>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> > > > >>>
>>> > > > >>>
>>> > > > >>> GF
>>> > > > >>>
>>> > > > >>> Check me out on twitter
>>> > > > >>> http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas
>>> > > > >>>
>>> > > > >>>
>>> > > > >>>
>>> > > > >>> _______________________________________________
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>>> > > > >>>
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> --
>>> > > > >> Sincerely,
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> Keith
>>> > > > >> Home Phone:
>>> > > > >> 928-554-3936
>>> > > > >> Mobile Phone:
>>> > > > >> 928-713-6370
>>> > > > >> Primary email:
>>> > > > >> keithint1234 at gmail.com
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> _______________________________________________
>>> > > > >> RWP mailing list
>>> > > > >> RWP at reaaccess.com
>>> > > > >> http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > GF
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Check me out on twitter
>>> > > > > http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
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>>> > > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > _______________________________________________
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>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > GF
>>> > >
>>> > > Check me out on twitter
>>> > > http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > _______________________________________________
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>>> > > _______________________________________________
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>>> >
>>> >
>>> > GF
>>> >
>>> > Check me out on twitter
>>> > http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > RWP mailing list
>>> > RWP at reaaccess.com
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>>>
>>>
>>> GF
>>>
>>> Check me out on twitter
>>> http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas
>>>
>>>
>>>
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