[RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New User
Scott Chesworth
scottchesworth at gmail.com
Tue Sep 10 22:39:32 EDT 2013
Sure, like I said, they're great, particularly if you're still kinda
new to DAWs, because I'd imagine that the rabbit holes would be useful
to you coming at them from that angle. A quick 15 minute walkthrough
of here's how to install, here's the important preferences, there's
your track controls and finishing by exploding their brains with some
basic item-based editing would appeal to a different audience though.
Keep me posted on the progress with Cavi, I'd probably be interested
in being involved if there were any gaps I could help fill. I ran a
couple of short crashcourses using Reaper as part of my dayjob a few
dayjobs ago and really enjoyed teaching those.
Scott
On 9/11/13, Derek Lane <derek at pdaudio.net> wrote:
> Cavi has approached me and asked me to consider running a reaper course,
> which would cover the material in the reaper cavi casts, plus a few other
> tidbits as well, but actually do so in a structured form.
> Those cavicasts were the biproduct of a lot of people, with a lot of
> questions, with an unknown amount of time set aside.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Chesworth" <scottchesworth at gmail.com>
> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 9:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New User
>
>
> Boom, there ya go folks, you'd get the content in half the time and
> it'd be twice as nice with Patrick working his magic.
>
> I'd gladly do one on mixing, some of the workarounds I use for
> features I wish were available in ReaAccess, conventions I use to keep
> track of what's going on and all that boring stuff.
>
> I know the Cavicasts covered the basics of creating tracks, recording
> audio and loading plugs etc, but it might be good to have a more
> concise version of that stuff too. Concise as in 10-15 minutes max to
> get you up and running from ground zero, rather than 3 hours. Not
> knocking the cavi content at all, it's great, but I know I would've
> welcomed something with a few less rabbit holes when I was Reacurious.
>
> Scott
>
>
> On 9/11/13, Patrick Perdue <patrick at pdaudio.net> wrote:
>> My business is podcast post-production (yes, I do it mostly with
>> Reaper,) so I'll be happy to lend myself to this project. I'll also do
>> everything in my power to avoid the use of Skype, or, if Skype must be
>> used, coordinate things such that it isn't obvious that it was ever
>> involved.
>>
>> On 9/10/2013 8:15 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>> I've dropped Roy a line to see whether he'd have time to share some
>>> wisdom. Just hit on the idea of spending a bit of time hanging out
>>> with each of the people on here that are using Reaper to do cool
>>> stuff, whatever their stuff may be. I'd interview them and record a
>>> bit of them in action for an hour at most, then handle all the boring
>>> editing uploading headache stuff so they don't have too. Seems like if
>>> enough people are keen to be featured it'd make a neat little podcast
>>> series. I could justify putting the time into it seeing as I'd no
>>> doubt learn a bunch of stuff along the way.
>>>
>>> Let's see what happens. First time I've been excited about Reaper in a
>>> while, so I hope the response from Roy is positive so I can strike
>>> while the iron is hot here.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> On 9/11/13, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>> Roy seems to have a leg up on some of the things we don't, bet he'd
>>>> help
>>>> out
>>>> if we approached him with a few clams.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Goldfinga Productions
>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 5:28 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New User
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ah, well that is a hole new animal… I can do some of it, but I would
>>>> like
>>>> to better edit stuff. Is there a person doing this already? Are they
>>>> giving
>>>> lessons? lol
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 10, 2013, at 5:16 PM, "Chris Belle" <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > I mean doing detailed editing and such.
>>>> >
>>>> > Are you down with that, I can load up and play midi and such, but
>>>> detailed editing and nudging notes and doing transforms or search and
>>>> replace like the interpolate dialogue in sonar, that sort of stuff.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > From: Goldfinga Productions
>>>> > To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 3:44 PM
>>>> > Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New User
>>>> >
>>>> > I use midi all the time with reaper…
>>>> > That's why I have been all over poise, that's one less piece of
>>>> hardware
>>>> that I have to hook up to the mixer. Now I can leave my npc at the
>>>> church.
>>>> lol.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Sep 10, 2013, at 4:41 PM, "Chris Belle" <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > yeh, reaper
>>>> > > isn't where sonar is but definitely useable,
>>>> > > especially with straight audio.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > We're all gonna have to flip Roy a few sheckles and get him to
>>>> show us
>>>> how he does midi with reaper,
>>>> > > I just ain't figured it out yet.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I mean I can do basics load a osft synth and hit the midi
>>>> editor,
>>>> > > and see some events and such, but it ain't anything like sonar
>>>> and
>>>> there are no docs,
>>>> > >
>>>> > > We desperately need some serious docs shoing how to do
>>>> everything.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > > From: Goldfinga Productions
>>>> > > To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 3:34 PM
>>>> > > Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New User
>>>> > >
>>>> > > That's exactly where I was going with that. lol. I use reaper,
>>>> hell,
>>>> like I said in my last message, I paid for it.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On Sep 10, 2013, at 4:25 PM, "Chris Belle"
>>>> <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > > I think GF was being humorous.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > I took it that way anyhow.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Kind of how we get the shaft and the end of the line
>>>> everywhere
>>>> in
>>>> the world and have to fight like dogs to not get left out,
>>>> > > > but you know how it works in this world, money talks and
>>>> bullshit
>>>> walks.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > If there were 20 million blind reaper users ready to buy
>>>> access
>>>> would be here next week 'grin'.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > For now we just have to cowboy up and do the best we can.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > > > From: Scott Chesworth
>>>> > > > To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 1:10 PM
>>>> > > > Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New User
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Couple of points to keep in mind before you dig too deep into
>>>> slating
>>>> > > > the Reaper developers in public...
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > They are aware that a visually impaired userbase exists, and
>>>> have
>>>> > > > gradually been exposing GUI elements over time. If you need
>>>> proof
>>>> of
>>>> > > > that, do some mousing around in Reaper on PC and see how much
>>>> NVDA
>>>> > > > tells you, or compare how much is visible with VoiceOver on
>>>> Mac
>>>> now
>>>> > > > against a version from a couple years back. API bugs that
>>>> impacted
>>>> > > > upon ReaAccess were fixed, and there have been a couple of
>>>> instances
>>>> > > > where accessibility gets a mention in the changelogs. A couple
>>>> of
>>>> > > > people with decent track records of getting stuff done are in
>>>> contact
>>>> > > > with Justin the lead developer, all be it sporadically.
>>>> They're
>>>> not
>>>> > > > shouting from the rooftops about that, but when the progress
>>>> comes,
>>>> it
>>>> > > > happens in fits and starts and has been largely due to nudges
>>>> and
>>>> > > > guidance from these key people. I think it's fair to say that
>>>> Cockos
>>>> > > > have demonstrated that they're happy to help, but they need
>>>> guidance
>>>> > > > and it needs to fit around their existing roadmap. I think
>>>> it's
>>>> pretty
>>>> > > > unfair to say we've been shafted. If you must find a home for
>>>> that
>>>> > > > accusation, Ivan's your man. Tell him who sent you lol.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Is the future certain? No. Then again, are their other DAW
>>>> developers
>>>> > > > showing markedly less interest? You betcha.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Nice idea re the NVDA team. Last time I approached Jamie about
>>>> Reaper
>>>> > > > he was up to his ears in Sonar as his pet project, but who
>>>> knows,
>>>> > > > someone else might have better luck catching him at the right
>>>> time.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Scott
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > On 9/10/13, Goldfinga Productions <goldfingas at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > > > > Glad I could brighten your day with that one. lol.
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > On Sep 10, 2013, at 9:18 AM, Keith Hinton
>>>> <keithint1234 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >> Muhahahahahahahhahaha! Cock OS! Oh dear! LOL Okay, I'll
>>>> stop
>>>> laughing
>>>> > > > >> now.
>>>> > > > >> But yeah, I think we've got it for sure.
>>>> > > > >>
>>>> > > > >> On 9/10/13, Goldfinga Productions <goldfingas at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > > > >>> Remember folks, the developers of reaper call them selves
>>>> "cockos." If
>>>> > > > >>> you
>>>> > > > >>> break that down, it spells "cock OS." lol. I think we got
>>>> the
>>>> shaft on
>>>> > > > >>> this
>>>> > > > >>> one.
>>>> > > > >>>
>>>> > > > >>>
>>>> > > > >>>
>>>> > > > >>> On Sep 10, 2013, at 8:37 AM, Keith Hinton
>>>> <keithint1234 at gmail.com>
>>>> > > > >>> wrote:
>>>> > > > >>>
>>>> > > > >>>> I can tel you, despite being new myself, that yes,
>>>> ReaAccess
>>>> has
>>>> > > > >>>> always been (basicly) the accessibility pathway for
>>>> screen
>>>> readers to
>>>> > > > >>>> interface to Reaper.
>>>> > > > >>>> The development has die out-last update was in 2010.
>>>> > > > >>>> A few folks have been able to use Reaper 4 with ReaAccess
>>>> just
>>>> > > > >>>> fine-looking up workarounds for things etc, but as I
>>>> understand
>>>> it
>>>> > > > >>>> your largely on your own with Reaper anyways.
>>>> > > > >>>> Without ReaAccess, I do not believe any native
>>>> accessibility
>>>> exists in
>>>> > > > >>>> Reaper itself.
>>>> > > > >>>> However, again, I could be utterly wrong.
>>>> > > > >>>> If others could reply to this new users question as well,
>>>> that
>>>> might
>>>> > > > >>>> help-but I believe I've answered it.
>>>> > > > >>>>
>>>> > > > >>>>
>>>> > > > >>>> On 9/10/13, Daveed Mandell <daveedm at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>> > > > >>>>> Hello:
>>>> > > > >>>>>
>>>> > > > >>>>> What is the status of Reaper accessibility right now? I
>>>> understand
>>>> > > > >>>>> that
>>>> > > > >>>>> Reaper's developers have shown little or no interest in
>>>> making
>>>> the
>>>> > > > >>>>> software
>>>> > > > >>>>> accessible, and that accessibility has been provided
>>>> through
>>>> a
>>>> > > > >>>>> separate
>>>> > > > >>>>> bridfe produced by blind people working from this list
>>>> and
>>>> website. I
>>>> > > > >>>>> also
>>>> > > > >>>>> understand that the website itself isn't functioning
>>>> anymore
>>>> due to
>>>> > > > >>>>> problems
>>>> > > > >>>>> related to spam. At any rate, is the latest version of
>>>> Reaper,
>>>> version
>>>> > > > >>>>> 4.5,
>>>> > > > >>>>> accessible for blind folks? It is interesting to note
>>>> the
>>>> difference
>>>> > > > >>>>> in
>>>> > > > >>>>> attitude between the developers of Reaper, versus the
>>>> developers of
>>>> > > > >>>>> the
>>>> > > > >>>>> free
>>>> > > > >>>>> Audacity audio software, who have been very
>>>> conscientiously
>>>> > > > >>>>> integrating
>>>> > > > >>>>> accessibility into the software. Thanks for any updates
>>>> and
>>>> > > > >>>>> information
>>>> > > > >>>>> regarding Reaper accessibility.
>>>> > > > >>>>>
>>>> > > > >>>>> Regards,
>>>> > > > >>>>>
>>>> > > > >>>>> Daveed Mandell
>>>> > > > >>>>>
>>>> > > > >>>>>
>>>> > > > >>>>>
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>>>> > > > >>>>>
>>>> > > > >>>>
>>>> > > > >>>>
>>>> > > > >>>> --
>>>> > > > >>>> Sincerely,
>>>> > > > >>>>
>>>> > > > >>>> Keith
>>>> > > > >>>> Home Phone:
>>>> > > > >>>> 928-554-3936
>>>> > > > >>>> Mobile Phone:
>>>> > > > >>>> 928-713-6370
>>>> > > > >>>> Primary email:
>>>> > > > >>>> keithint1234 at gmail.com
>>>> > > > >>>>
>>>> > > > >>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> > > > >>>
>>>> > > > >>>
>>>> > > > >>> GF
>>>> > > > >>>
>>>> > > > >>> Check me out on twitter
>>>> > > > >>> http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas
>>>> > > > >>>
>>>> > > > >>>
>>>> > > > >>>
>>>> > > > >>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> > > > >>>
>>>> > > > >>
>>>> > > > >>
>>>> > > > >> --
>>>> > > > >> Sincerely,
>>>> > > > >>
>>>> > > > >> Keith
>>>> > > > >> Home Phone:
>>>> > > > >> 928-554-3936
>>>> > > > >> Mobile Phone:
>>>> > > > >> 928-713-6370
>>>> > > > >> Primary email:
>>>> > > > >> keithint1234 at gmail.com
>>>> > > > >>
>>>> > > > >> _______________________________________________
>>>> > > > >> RWP mailing list
>>>> > > > >> RWP at reaaccess.com
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>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > GF
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > Check me out on twitter
>>>> > > > > http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > _______________________________________________
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>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > >
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>>>> > > > _______________________________________________
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>>>> > > > RWP at reaaccess.com
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>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > GF
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Check me out on twitter
>>>> > > http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > _______________________________________________
>>>> > > RWP mailing list
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>>>> > > _______________________________________________
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>>>> > > RWP at reaaccess.com
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>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > GF
>>>> >
>>>> > Check me out on twitter
>>>> > http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>> > RWP mailing list
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> GF
>>>>
>>>> Check me out on twitter
>>>> http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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