[RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New User
Patrick Perdue
patrick at pdaudio.net
Tue Sep 10 17:33:52 EDT 2013
Without ReaAccess, there is a lot that can't easily be accessed.
ReaAccess ads hooks and creates easy access to some of the context
menus, reads status of selected track, status of that track, such as
arm, solo, mute, etc. meters, and a lot more. It also changes tons of
stuff in the keymap. So, yes, you could probably do some very basic
stuff with Reaper without ReaAccess just fine, but nothing complex with
track routing, midi event editing, etc.
On 9/10/2013 4:42 PM, Stuart Lawler wrote:
> Is the current version of Reaper usable without the Access plug-in?
>
> Something tells me that the plug-in worked best with Reaper 3.8, but
> that version has been passed out now. What is the best configuration for
> access using Jaws 14 and Windows 8?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Stuart
>
> *From:*RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] *On Behalf Of *Chris Belle
> *Sent:* 10 September 2013 21:39
> *To:* Reapers Without Peepers
> *Subject:* Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New User
>
> I am going to spring for it soon myself.
>
> I mean, it's only 50 bucks,
>
> I spend more than that going out to eat sometimes 'grin'.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:*Goldfinga Productions <mailto:goldfingas at gmail.com>
>
> *To:*Reapers Without Peepers <mailto:rwp at reaaccess.com>
>
> *Sent:*Tuesday, September 10, 2013 3:32 PM
>
> *Subject:*Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New User
>
> I was just making fun of the name of the company… I really like what
> they have done with reaper. And I have also used ninjam…
>
> But its all good… I am down to do what ever it takes to make this
> thing work for us. Its a nice program and I paid for it, even in the
> state it is in as far as accessibility.
> On Sep 10, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Scott Chesworth
> <scottchesworth at gmail.com <mailto:scottchesworth at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> > Couple of points to keep in mind before you dig too deep into slating
> > the Reaper developers in public...
> >
> > They are aware that a visually impaired userbase exists, and have
> > gradually been exposing GUI elements over time. If you need proof of
> > that, do some mousing around in Reaper on PC and see how much NVDA
> > tells you, or compare how much is visible with VoiceOver on Mac now
> > against a version from a couple years back. API bugs that impacted
> > upon ReaAccess were fixed, and there have been a couple of instances
> > where accessibility gets a mention in the changelogs. A couple of
> > people with decent track records of getting stuff done are in contact
> > with Justin the lead developer, all be it sporadically. They're not
> > shouting from the rooftops about that, but when the progress
> comes, it
> > happens in fits and starts and has been largely due to nudges and
> > guidance from these key people. I think it's fair to say that Cockos
> > have demonstrated that they're happy to help, but they need guidance
> > and it needs to fit around their existing roadmap. I think it's
> pretty
> > unfair to say we've been shafted. If you must find a home for that
> > accusation, Ivan's your man. Tell him who sent you lol.
> >
> > Is the future certain? No. Then again, are their other DAW developers
> > showing markedly less interest? You betcha.
> >
> > Nice idea re the NVDA team. Last time I approached Jamie about Reaper
> > he was up to his ears in Sonar as his pet project, but who knows,
> > someone else might have better luck catching him at the right time.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> > On 9/10/13, Goldfinga Productions <goldfingas at gmail.com
> <mailto:goldfingas at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >> Glad I could brighten your day with that one. lol.
> >>
> >> On Sep 10, 2013, at 9:18 AM, Keith Hinton
> <keithint1234 at gmail.com <mailto:keithint1234 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Muhahahahahahahhahaha! Cock OS! Oh dear! LOL Okay, I'll stop
> laughing
> >>> now.
> >>> But yeah, I think we've got it for sure.
> >>>
> >>> On 9/10/13, Goldfinga Productions <goldfingas at gmail.com
> <mailto:goldfingas at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>> Remember folks, the developers of reaper call them selves
> "cockos." If
> >>>> you
> >>>> break that down, it spells "cock OS." lol. I think we got the
> shaft on
> >>>> this
> >>>> one.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sep 10, 2013, at 8:37 AM, Keith Hinton
> <keithint1234 at gmail.com <mailto:keithint1234 at gmail.com>>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I can tel you, despite being new myself, that yes, ReaAccess has
> >>>>> always been (basicly) the accessibility pathway for screen
> readers to
> >>>>> interface to Reaper.
> >>>>> The development has die out-last update was in 2010.
> >>>>> A few folks have been able to use Reaper 4 with ReaAccess just
> >>>>> fine-looking up workarounds for things etc, but as I
> understand it
> >>>>> your largely on your own with Reaper anyways.
> >>>>> Without ReaAccess, I do not believe any native accessibility
> exists in
> >>>>> Reaper itself.
> >>>>> However, again, I could be utterly wrong.
> >>>>> If others could reply to this new users question as well,
> that might
> >>>>> help-but I believe I've answered it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 9/10/13, Daveed Mandell <daveedm at sbcglobal.net
> <mailto:daveedm at sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
> >>>>>> Hello:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What is the status of Reaper accessibility right now? I
> understand
> >>>>>> that
> >>>>>> Reaper's developers have shown little or no interest in
> making the
> >>>>>> software
> >>>>>> accessible, and that accessibility has been provided through a
> >>>>>> separate
> >>>>>> bridfe produced by blind people working from this list and
> website. I
> >>>>>> also
> >>>>>> understand that the website itself isn't functioning anymore
> due to
> >>>>>> problems
> >>>>>> related to spam. At any rate, is the latest version of
> Reaper, version
> >>>>>> 4.5,
> >>>>>> accessible for blind folks? It is interesting to note the
> difference
> >>>>>> in
> >>>>>> attitude between the developers of Reaper, versus the
> developers of
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> free
> >>>>>> Audacity audio software, who have been very conscientiously
> >>>>>> integrating
> >>>>>> accessibility into the software. Thanks for any updates and
> >>>>>> information
> >>>>>> regarding Reaper accessibility.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Daveed Mandell
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>> RWP mailing list
> >>>>>> RWP at reaaccess.com <mailto:RWP at reaaccess.com>
> >>>>>> http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Sincerely,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Keith
> >>>>> Home Phone:
> >>>>> 928-554-3936
> >>>>> Mobile Phone:
> >>>>> 928-713-6370
> >>>>> Primary email:
> >>>>> keithint1234 at gmail.com <mailto:keithint1234 at gmail.com>
> >>>>>
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> >>>>> http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> GF
> >>>>
> >>>> Check me out on twitter
> >>>> http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>> RWP at reaaccess.com <mailto:RWP at reaaccess.com>
> >>>> http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Sincerely,
> >>>
> >>> Keith
> >>> Home Phone:
> >>> 928-554-3936
> >>> Mobile Phone:
> >>> 928-713-6370
> >>> Primary email:
> >>> keithint1234 at gmail.com <mailto:keithint1234 at gmail.com>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
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> >>> RWP at reaaccess.com <mailto:RWP at reaaccess.com>
> >>> http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com
> >>
> >>
> >> GF
> >>
> >> Check me out on twitter
> >> http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas
> >>
> >>
> >>
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>
> GF
>
> Check me out on twitter
> http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas
>
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