[RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New User

Tue Sep 10 16:44:37 EDT 2013

I use midi all the time with reaper…
That's why I have been all over poise, that's one less piece of hardware that I have to hook up to the mixer. Now I can leave my npc at the church. lol.

On Sep 10, 2013, at 4:41 PM, "Chris Belle" <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> yeh, reaper
> isn't where sonar is but definitely useable,
> especially with straight audio.
>  
> We're all gonna have to flip Roy a few sheckles and get him to show us how he does midi with reaper,
> I just ain't figured it out yet.
>  
> I mean I can do basics load a osft synth and hit the midi editor,
> and see some events and such, but it ain't anything like sonar and there are no docs,
>  
> We desperately need some serious docs shoing how to do everything.
>  
>  
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Goldfinga Productions
> To: Reapers Without Peepers
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 3:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New User
> 
> That's exactly where I was going with that. lol. I use reaper, hell, like I said in my last message, I paid for it. 
> 
> On Sep 10, 2013, at 4:25 PM, "Chris Belle" <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
> > I think GF was being humorous.
> >  
> > I took it that way anyhow.
> >  
> > Kind of how we get the shaft and the end of the line everywhere in the world and have to fight like dogs to not get left out,
> > but you know how it works in this world, money talks and bullshit walks.
> >  
> > If there were 20 million blind reaper users ready to buy access would be here next week 'grin'.
> >  
> > For now we just have to cowboy up and do the best we can.
> >  
> >  
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Scott Chesworth
> > To: Reapers Without Peepers
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 1:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New User
> > 
> > Couple of points to keep in mind before you dig too deep into slating
> > the Reaper developers in public...
> > 
> > They are aware that a visually impaired userbase exists, and have
> > gradually been exposing GUI elements over time. If you need proof of
> > that, do some mousing around in Reaper on PC and see how much NVDA
> > tells you, or compare how much is visible with VoiceOver on Mac now
> > against a version from a couple years back. API bugs that impacted
> > upon ReaAccess were fixed, and there have been a couple of instances
> > where accessibility gets a mention in the changelogs. A couple of
> > people with decent track records of getting stuff done are in contact
> > with Justin the lead developer, all be it sporadically. They're not
> > shouting from the rooftops about that, but when the progress comes, it
> > happens in fits and starts and has been largely due to nudges and
> > guidance from these key people. I think it's fair to say that Cockos
> > have demonstrated that they're happy to help, but they need guidance
> > and it needs to fit around their existing roadmap. I think it's pretty
> > unfair to say we've been shafted. If you must find a home for that
> > accusation, Ivan's your man. Tell him who sent you lol.
> > 
> > Is the future certain? No. Then again, are their other DAW developers
> > showing markedly less interest? You betcha.
> > 
> > Nice idea re the NVDA team. Last time I approached Jamie about Reaper
> > he was up to his ears in Sonar as his pet project, but who knows,
> > someone else might have better luck catching him at the right time.
> > 
> > Scott
> > 
> > 
> > On 9/10/13, Goldfinga Productions <goldfingas at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Glad I could brighten your day with that one. lol.
> > >
> > > On Sep 10, 2013, at 9:18 AM, Keith Hinton <keithint1234 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Muhahahahahahahhahaha! Cock OS! Oh dear! LOL Okay, I'll stop laughing
> > >> now.
> > >> But yeah, I think we've got it for sure.
> > >>
> > >> On 9/10/13, Goldfinga Productions <goldfingas at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>> Remember folks, the developers of reaper call them selves "cockos." If
> > >>> you
> > >>> break that down, it spells "cock OS." lol. I think we got the shaft on
> > >>> this
> > >>> one.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Sep 10, 2013, at 8:37 AM, Keith Hinton <keithint1234 at gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> I can tel you, despite being new myself, that yes, ReaAccess has
> > >>>> always been (basicly) the accessibility pathway for screen readers to
> > >>>> interface to Reaper.
> > >>>> The development has die out-last update was in 2010.
> > >>>> A few folks have been able to use Reaper 4 with ReaAccess just
> > >>>> fine-looking up workarounds for things etc, but as I understand it
> > >>>> your largely on your own with Reaper anyways.
> > >>>> Without ReaAccess, I do not believe any native accessibility exists in
> > >>>> Reaper itself.
> > >>>> However, again, I could be utterly wrong.
> > >>>> If others could reply to this new users question as well, that might
> > >>>> help-but I believe I've answered it.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 9/10/13, Daveed Mandell <daveedm at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > >>>>> Hello:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> What is the status of Reaper accessibility right now? I understand
> > >>>>> that
> > >>>>> Reaper's developers have shown little or no interest in making the
> > >>>>> software
> > >>>>> accessible, and that accessibility has been provided through a
> > >>>>> separate
> > >>>>> bridfe produced by blind people working from this list and website. I
> > >>>>> also
> > >>>>> understand that the website itself isn't functioning anymore due to
> > >>>>> problems
> > >>>>> related to spam. At any rate, is the latest version of Reaper, version
> > >>>>> 4.5,
> > >>>>> accessible for blind folks? It is interesting to note the difference
> > >>>>> in
> > >>>>> attitude between the developers of Reaper, versus the developers of
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>> free
> > >>>>> Audacity audio software, who have been very conscientiously
> > >>>>> integrating
> > >>>>> accessibility into the software. Thanks for any updates and
> > >>>>> information
> > >>>>> regarding Reaper accessibility.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Regards,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Daveed Mandell
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>>> RWP mailing list
> > >>>>> RWP at reaaccess.com
> > >>>>> http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Sincerely,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Keith
> > >>>> Home Phone:
> > >>>> 928-554-3936
> > >>>> Mobile Phone:
> > >>>> 928-713-6370
> > >>>> Primary email:
> > >>>> keithint1234 at gmail.com
> > >>>>
> > >>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>> RWP mailing list
> > >>>> RWP at reaaccess.com
> > >>>> http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> GF
> > >>>
> > >>> Check me out on twitter
> > >>> http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> _______________________________________________
> > >>> RWP mailing list
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> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Sincerely,
> > >>
> > >> Keith
> > >> Home Phone:
> > >> 928-554-3936
> > >> Mobile Phone:
> > >> 928-713-6370
> > >> Primary email:
> > >> keithint1234 at gmail.com
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> RWP mailing list
> > >> RWP at reaaccess.com
> > >> http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com
> > >
> > >
> > > GF
> > >
> > > Check me out on twitter
> > > http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > 
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