[RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New User

Tue Sep 10 16:34:14 EDT 2013

That's exactly where I was going with that. lol. I use reaper, hell, like I said in my last message, I paid for it. 

On Sep 10, 2013, at 4:25 PM, "Chris Belle" <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> I think GF was being humorous.
>  
> I took it that way anyhow.
>  
> Kind of how we get the shaft and the end of the line everywhere in the world and have to fight like dogs to not get left out,
> but you know how it works in this world, money talks and bullshit walks.
>  
> If there were 20 million blind reaper users ready to buy access would be here next week 'grin'.
>  
> For now we just have to cowboy up and do the best we can.
>  
>  
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Scott Chesworth
> To: Reapers Without Peepers
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 1:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New User
> 
> Couple of points to keep in mind before you dig too deep into slating
> the Reaper developers in public...
> 
> They are aware that a visually impaired userbase exists, and have
> gradually been exposing GUI elements over time. If you need proof of
> that, do some mousing around in Reaper on PC and see how much NVDA
> tells you, or compare how much is visible with VoiceOver on Mac now
> against a version from a couple years back. API bugs that impacted
> upon ReaAccess were fixed, and there have been a couple of instances
> where accessibility gets a mention in the changelogs. A couple of
> people with decent track records of getting stuff done are in contact
> with Justin the lead developer, all be it sporadically. They're not
> shouting from the rooftops about that, but when the progress comes, it
> happens in fits and starts and has been largely due to nudges and
> guidance from these key people. I think it's fair to say that Cockos
> have demonstrated that they're happy to help, but they need guidance
> and it needs to fit around their existing roadmap. I think it's pretty
> unfair to say we've been shafted. If you must find a home for that
> accusation, Ivan's your man. Tell him who sent you lol.
> 
> Is the future certain? No. Then again, are their other DAW developers
> showing markedly less interest? You betcha.
> 
> Nice idea re the NVDA team. Last time I approached Jamie about Reaper
> he was up to his ears in Sonar as his pet project, but who knows,
> someone else might have better luck catching him at the right time.
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> On 9/10/13, Goldfinga Productions <goldfingas at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Glad I could brighten your day with that one. lol.
> >
> > On Sep 10, 2013, at 9:18 AM, Keith Hinton <keithint1234 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Muhahahahahahahhahaha! Cock OS! Oh dear! LOL Okay, I'll stop laughing
> >> now.
> >> But yeah, I think we've got it for sure.
> >>
> >> On 9/10/13, Goldfinga Productions <goldfingas at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Remember folks, the developers of reaper call them selves "cockos." If
> >>> you
> >>> break that down, it spells "cock OS." lol. I think we got the shaft on
> >>> this
> >>> one.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sep 10, 2013, at 8:37 AM, Keith Hinton <keithint1234 at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I can tel you, despite being new myself, that yes, ReaAccess has
> >>>> always been (basicly) the accessibility pathway for screen readers to
> >>>> interface to Reaper.
> >>>> The development has die out-last update was in 2010.
> >>>> A few folks have been able to use Reaper 4 with ReaAccess just
> >>>> fine-looking up workarounds for things etc, but as I understand it
> >>>> your largely on your own with Reaper anyways.
> >>>> Without ReaAccess, I do not believe any native accessibility exists in
> >>>> Reaper itself.
> >>>> However, again, I could be utterly wrong.
> >>>> If others could reply to this new users question as well, that might
> >>>> help-but I believe I've answered it.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 9/10/13, Daveed Mandell <daveedm at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >>>>> Hello:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What is the status of Reaper accessibility right now? I understand
> >>>>> that
> >>>>> Reaper's developers have shown little or no interest in making the
> >>>>> software
> >>>>> accessible, and that accessibility has been provided through a
> >>>>> separate
> >>>>> bridfe produced by blind people working from this list and website. I
> >>>>> also
> >>>>> understand that the website itself isn't functioning anymore due to
> >>>>> problems
> >>>>> related to spam. At any rate, is the latest version of Reaper, version
> >>>>> 4.5,
> >>>>> accessible for blind folks? It is interesting to note the difference
> >>>>> in
> >>>>> attitude between the developers of Reaper, versus the developers of
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> free
> >>>>> Audacity audio software, who have been very conscientiously
> >>>>> integrating
> >>>>> accessibility into the software. Thanks for any updates and
> >>>>> information
> >>>>> regarding Reaper accessibility.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Daveed Mandell
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>>> RWP at reaaccess.com
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> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Sincerely,
> >>>>
> >>>> Keith
> >>>> Home Phone:
> >>>> 928-554-3936
> >>>> Mobile Phone:
> >>>> 928-713-6370
> >>>> Primary email:
> >>>> keithint1234 at gmail.com
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>> RWP at reaaccess.com
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>> GF
> >>>
> >>> Check me out on twitter
> >>> http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Sincerely,
> >>
> >> Keith
> >> Home Phone:
> >> 928-554-3936
> >> Mobile Phone:
> >> 928-713-6370
> >> Primary email:
> >> keithint1234 at gmail.com
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >
> >
> > GF
> >
> > Check me out on twitter
> > http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas
> >
> >
> >
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