[RWP] Looping

Thu Sep 5 02:41:26 EDT 2013

The issue here isn't DAW versions,screen reader or anything like that. Its a misunderstanding in the term loop. When DAW's refer to loop, its referring to a file that has meta data in it identifying it to the DAW as a loop. Just cuz a piece of audio is 4  Bars and in sync with the project tempo, doesn't change the fact that it's a 4 bar piece of audio that just happens to be at the project tempo. You will have to *mark* it as a loop in order for  the changining the number of bars trick in its properties to work.  This and the loop item check box will not work unless you first *convert* that piece of audio to a*loop*.  SInce reaper supports Acidized wav or rex files (both common 3rd party loop standards) if you have access to a library of these files import one of these into a reaper project and I bet the trick Indie pointed out would work. Reaper has a way to create loop files so that it will conform to tempo and this loop trick will work. Unfortunately  I don't remember how to do this off hand but the reaper manual explains this and its doable with a screen reader has i have done it in the past on both mac and pc versions of Reaper.  So yeah for  just having apiece repeat a few times, copying and pasting may be quicker. The advantage however  of converting it to a loop first however, means you can change tempo or etc and the loops will playback at the new tempo. Great for remixing or other production work, or hell if you want to see how a song will sound if the band played it a little faster or slower.  Hope this helps and i was clear enough. Any questions , let me know.

On Sep 1, 2013, at 4:14 PM, Scott Chesworth <scottchesworth at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hmmm, no idea to be honest man. When I tried this workflow and it
> didn't work last time, I assumed it was because the source media
> wasn't recorded in that session so Reaper didn't have so much of a
> handle on it, but thinking about it, that's probably a dumb thing to
> think. Anyway, I just tried it again to build a trailing vocal delay,
> and it didn't work here. I can tell that Reaper is extending the item
> length by the right amount, but the audio itself isn't looping, so the
> extention of length is just silence. The loop source checkbox is
> checked in item properties.
> 
> Anyone know where we're going wrong with this?
> 
> Scott
> 
> On 9/1/13, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> This was an imported file I had split in to a few items.
>> 
>> Just for gins, I did some manual de-essing by splitting out the sibalance
>> parts of words, and lowering item volumes,
>> on the offending parts, I had that handy so I selected one of the items with
>> control right or left arrows and pressed enter
>> and tabbed through item properties till I got to the beat and time settings
>> and such, and
>> lengthened
>> the time, and all it did was cause the volumes of the items down stream from
>> the item I was working on to be messed up,
>> like caused a jerk in the amplitude,
>> so something is definitely going on, but no looping.
>> /But when I copy an item and paste it right next to it,
>> it repeats or loops just fine.
>> 
>> But it'd be nice to hear a loop so you can see if you got it right, like
>> when processing a beat or some such.
>> 
>> Any thoughts?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>  From: Scott Chesworth
>>  To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>  Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2013 2:24 PM
>>  Subject: Re: [RWP] Looping
>> 
>> 
>>  Chris,
>> 
>>  Was the source material you're trying to loop recorded in the same
>>  Reaper session? I've got a feeling that makes a difference to whether
>>  Indie's workflow will work.
>> 
>>  Scott
>> 
>>  On 9/1/13, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> I've seen this posted several times but it never works that way for me.
>>> 
>>> When I change to beats and make the number larger in an item on a track,
>> and
>>> even nudged down it only seems to change the envelope or volume of the
>> items
>>> after the item I changed, but not make the item longer.
>>> 
>>> I've tried this with ripple both on and off.
>>> 
>>> The only way I can loop so far is copying an item and pasting it at the
>> end
>>> the number of times I want, so it doubles.
>>> 
>>> There's probably a better way to do this.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>  From: Indigo
>>>  To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>  Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2013 2:03 AM
>>>  Subject: Re: [RWP] Looping
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  You can loop an item in Reaper by first making sure the item is
>> exactly
>>>  an even length, like 1, 2  or 4 measures, the most common loop
>> lengths;
>>>  because if it is a fractional length; like 2.0.1  it will drift out
>> of
>>>  sync with the rest of the music as it loops.
>>>  Okay, say you have a 2 measure item to loop, select the item with
>>>  shift+A or ctrl+right arrow.
>>>  Then go to Item Properties; select to display the item length in
>> beats.
>>>  Then multiply the item's length by a multiple; which will cause the
>> item
>>>  to loop that many times.
>>>  For instance, if the selected item is 2 measures in length, multiply
>> its
>>>  length shown in the length field by 10 and the item will loop 10
>> times.
>>>  You simply enter a new item length in the length field; then tab down
>> to
>>>  OK or whatever the confirmation is; hit enter.
>>>  It will occupy the new length on the time line, with the original 2
>>>  measure item repeated 10 times.
>>>  Turn ctrl+R off, you don't need it to loop the item now.
>>>  The standard method to loop an item for sighted users is to grab the
>>>  right end of the selected item with the mouse and stretch its length
>>>  out; like stretching a rubber band;  to the desired amount.
>>>  This item length multiplication method in Item Properties does
>> exactly
>>>  the same thing.
>>>  Indi
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  On 8/31/2013 1:53 PM, adriandavids404 at gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Hi Gold Fingers,
>>>> 
>>>> I normally loop an item by setting repeat on with Control plus R.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm not sure about loop recording as I haven't explored it yet.
>>>> 
>>>> I hope I could have been of some help.
>>>> 
>>>> Adrian
>>>> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Goldfinga Productions <goldfingas at gmail.com>
>>>> Sender: "RWP" <rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com>
>>>> Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 14:12:44
>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers<rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>> Reply-To: Reapers Without Peepers <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>> Subject: [RWP] Looping
>>>> 
>>>> How does one go about properly looping a section? I have highlighted
>> the
>>> item that I would like to loop, I also turn on loop but it still
>> doesn't
>>> loop.
>>>> What other steps are necessary to loop an item?
>>>> And can you have one track looping while you record on another? Kind
>> of
>>> like a drum machine?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> GF
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> 
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