[RWP] Looping
Scott Chesworth
scottchesworth at gmail.com
Thu Sep 5 02:12:35 EDT 2013
Hey David,
Same behaviour with NVDA (my main screen reader for Reaper, JAWS and
SA. Here at least, that's not what's causing it not to work
apparently.
Scott
On 9/5/13, David P Shortland <dragamilov at comcen.com.au> wrote:
> Hi & Greetings from Springtime Down Under,
>
> This is definitely happening in 4.5.1.
>
> I Select the Item, go into Item Properties Change the Length value, put a
> checkmark in the Loop Item box and hit Enter...
>
> There are a couple of anomalies, that I could not get my head around, simply
>
> for the fact that I could not reproduce the same outcomes every time, but in
>
> the end the Loop idea worked.
>
> I will report on further findings as they arise...
>
> As Indigo said, simply just copying and pasting the item x amount of times
> is just as easy.
>
> Here might be a little fly in the ointment, for a little consideration...
> perhaps the reason for different outcomes for different peoples may be
> because of the different ScreenReaders that are being used.
>
> I use SystemAccess, and it seems to pick up a few more things ins some
> Dialog Boxes than does NVDA. However, NVDA's object navigation beats the
> hell out of SA's pathetic Mouse implementation.
>
> Could JAWS be getting in the way of any of the coding that REAACCESS has in
>
> place for us?
>
> I am not trying to slag off JAWS, it is just an observation.
>
> Kind regards
>
> David P Shortland
> DragonScore Productions
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: T.Reid
> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 9:34 AM
> To: 'Reapers Without Peepers'
> Subject: Re: [RWP] Looping
>
> I am also able to get this working in 3.76.
>
> Not sure if this was mentioned, but if you are using audio and reduce the
> length of the item from the original source size, i.e. from 4.0.31
> (measures, beats...) to 4.0.0, make sure you glue the item in order to save
> it at the new length.
>
> Then change the 4.0.0 to 16.0.0 and Boom, it loops 4 times.
> Should work!
>
> t
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Jim Snowbarger
> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 6:45 PM
> To: Reapers Without Peepers
> Subject: Re: [RWP] Looping
>
> Ah, I bet this is the clue. If this was mentioned, I missed it.
>
> From Indigo:
> but; after the procedure; selecting the stretch length item again just
> before pressing play is essential, or you'll only play the original length.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 2:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [RWP] Looping
>
>
> This must be one of those things that works when you've done it and
> believe in it, mojo, in other words.
> I tried it with uneven length original item, and it works.
> I think the clue is in having project settings set to
> measures/beats/length, but; after the procedure; selecting the stretch
> length item again just before pressing play is essential, or you'll only
> play the original length.
> It really isn't worth banging the head against the brick wall, just copy
> and paste, a good old method that only requires seconds and ctrl+C then
> ctrl+v.
>
> On 9/3/2013 1:07 PM, Goldfinga Productions wrote:
>> Oh well. It was worth a try. LOL
>>
>> I wonder if the item has to stretch over the beat or measure exactly?
>>
>> Last night when I was trying to paste an item over and over, I try to
>> make
>
>> sure that I pasted it exactly on the beat. The item must of been a little
>> bit longer than I expected it only played every other measure because an
>> item that overlaps another item will not allow the second item to play
>> for
>
>> some reason.
>> So maybe when we stretch the items, it's not looping because the first
>> item is covering up other items. I don't know, I'm just taking a shot in
>> the dark here with this. lol..
>>
>> On Sep 3, 2013, at 1:03 PM, Scott Chesworth <scottchesworth at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Nope, I'm on 4 and had no luck either, so the version probably isn't
>>> the variable here.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> On 9/3/13, Goldfinga Productions <goldfingas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I tried it last night with no success either using version 3.78.
>>>> Maybe that's something that only works good in version four?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 3, 2013, at 12:24 PM, "Chris Belle" <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I know ain't this a maddening little daw?
>>>>>
>>>>> We'll figure it out though eventually.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Jim Snowbarger
>>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 02, 2013 4:41 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Looping
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't make this work either, although I did once. So, I know it is
>>>>> possible to loop by extending.
>>>>> I selected an item, and quadrupled the length, and had the loop Source
>>>>> checkbox checked. The result was absolutely no change. If I cut the
>>>>> length in half, then the item plays, and cuts off early as expected.
>>>>> But,
>>>>> making it longer had no effect at all.
>>>>> So, there is, as usual, subtle nuances to how it actually behaves.
>>>>> Details, the devil is always in the details.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Chris Belle
>>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 02, 2013 1:14 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Looping
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, atleast for now we can copy items to extend them,
>>>>> but I'd love to be able to loop items to trim ends and such to prepare
>>>>> loops for export and such.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Scott Chesworth
>>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2013 3:14 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Looping
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmmm, no idea to be honest man. When I tried this workflow and it
>>>>> didn't work last time, I assumed it was because the source media
>>>>> wasn't recorded in that session so Reaper didn't have so much of a
>>>>> handle on it, but thinking about it, that's probably a dumb thing to
>>>>> think. Anyway, I just tried it again to build a trailing vocal delay,
>>>>> and it didn't work here. I can tell that Reaper is extending the item
>>>>> length by the right amount, but the audio itself isn't looping, so the
>>>>> extention of length is just silence. The loop source checkbox is
>>>>> checked in item properties.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone know where we're going wrong with this?
>>>>>
>>>>> Scott
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/1/13, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>> This was an imported file I had split in to a few items.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just for gins, I did some manual de-essing by splitting out the
>>>>>> sibalance
>>>>>> parts of words, and lowering item volumes,
>>>>>> on the offending parts, I had that handy so I selected one of the
>>>>>> items
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> control right or left arrows and pressed enter
>>>>>> and tabbed through item properties till I got to the beat and time
>>>>>> settings
>>>>>> and such, and
>>>>>> lengthened
>>>>>> the time, and all it did was cause the volumes of the items down
>>>>>> stream
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> the item I was working on to be messed up,
>>>>>> like caused a jerk in the amplitude,
>>>>>> so something is definitely going on, but no looping.
>>>>>> /But when I copy an item and paste it right next to it,
>>>>>> it repeats or loops just fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But it'd be nice to hear a loop so you can see if you got it right,
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> when processing a beat or some such.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Scott Chesworth
>>>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2013 2:24 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Looping
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Was the source material you're trying to loop recorded in the same
>>>>>> Reaper session? I've got a feeling that makes a difference to
>>>>>> whether
>>>>>> Indie's workflow will work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/1/13, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> I've seen this posted several times but it never works that way for
>>>>>> me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I change to beats and make the number larger in an item on a
>>>>>> track,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> even nudged down it only seems to change the envelope or volume of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> items
>>>>>>> after the item I changed, but not make the item longer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've tried this with ripple both on and off.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The only way I can loop so far is copying an item and pasting it at
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> end
>>>>>>> the number of times I want, so it doubles.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There's probably a better way to do this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: Indigo
>>>>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2013 2:03 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Looping
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can loop an item in Reaper by first making sure the item is
>>>>>> exactly
>>>>>>> an even length, like 1, 2 or 4 measures, the most common loop
>>>>>> lengths;
>>>>>>> because if it is a fractional length; like 2.0.1 it will drift
>>>>>> out
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> sync with the rest of the music as it loops.
>>>>>>> Okay, say you have a 2 measure item to loop, select the item with
>>>>>>> shift+A or ctrl+right arrow.
>>>>>>> Then go to Item Properties; select to display the item length in
>>>>>> beats.
>>>>>>> Then multiply the item's length by a multiple; which will cause
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> item
>>>>>>> to loop that many times.
>>>>>>> For instance, if the selected item is 2 measures in length,
>>>>>> multiply
>>>>>> its
>>>>>>> length shown in the length field by 10 and the item will loop 10
>>>>>> times.
>>>>>>> You simply enter a new item length in the length field; then tab
>>>>>> down
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> OK or whatever the confirmation is; hit enter.
>>>>>>> It will occupy the new length on the time line, with the original
>>>>>> 2
>>>>>>> measure item repeated 10 times.
>>>>>>> Turn ctrl+R off, you don't need it to loop the item now.
>>>>>>> The standard method to loop an item for sighted users is to grab
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> right end of the selected item with the mouse and stretch its
>>>>>> length
>>>>>>> out; like stretching a rubber band; to the desired amount.
>>>>>>> This item length multiplication method in Item Properties does
>>>>>> exactly
>>>>>>> the same thing.
>>>>>>> Indi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/31/2013 1:53 PM, adriandavids404 at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Gold Fingers,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I normally loop an item by setting repeat on with Control plus
>>>>>> R.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm not sure about loop recording as I haven't explored it yet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I hope I could have been of some help.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Adrian
>>>>>>>> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Goldfinga Productions <goldfingas at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> Sender: "RWP" <rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 14:12:44
>>>>>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers<rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>>>> Reply-To: Reapers Without Peepers <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>>>> Subject: [RWP] Looping
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How does one go about properly looping a section? I have
>>>>>> highlighted
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> item that I would like to loop, I also turn on loop but it still
>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>> loop.
>>>>>>>> What other steps are necessary to loop an item?
>>>>>>>> And can you have one track looping while you record on another?
>>>>>> Kind
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> like a drum machine?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> GF
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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