[RWP] Looping
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Mon Sep 2 21:31:28 EDT 2013
Well that could be the problem… Most people are using version 3.78.
On Sep 2, 2013, at 8:37 PM, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
> Okay, In Reaper version 451; I just now did it for audio and midi loops.
> This used to be easier in a previous 32 bit version, but it still works perfectly for midi files, with definitely more uncertainty for audio files.
> Here's the method:
> Insert the media with alt+I.
> Press the home key to go to start of the media.
> Select item with ctrl+right arrow.
> For midi files, shift+A works well, but only ctrl+right arrow works for audio files.
> Once you have selected the item to be looped, go to item properties.
> Now, here's something essential, tab to the item name, arrow up then back down, or however you make sure the item is really in focus, and saying selected when its name is read.
> If you have beats/measures/length selected as how items are displayed; in your project settings, you can just accept the use default project settings.
> Setting the mode the item is displayed inyour project settings as measures/beats/length is a better way to go than selecting beats in the item properties menu, and having time selected in your project settings, thus producing a conflict.
> Get the edit length field in focus, however you do it. I will need to hold ctrl and press left arrow in NVDA to get back to the beginning of the llength numbers so I can edit the length.
> To multiply the length; I typed in some additional character, like if the original length was 1 I added a 0 to multiply it by 10, for 10 loops.
> Then I tabbed down to apply and hit enter, but there's another step that's missing, that is, it should have a click on OK.
> Now, in Wineyes 32 bits, I could use my numPad and easily find the OK button near the screen bottom, but in 64 bits NVDA, I can't find the OK button on the screen itself, so I go back to the item properties and either press OK, if it's there, or just go into; then exit item properties; which seems to satisfy the need to press the OK button.
> Then; here's an important step; to select the whole new increased length of the item; and press play, and both audio and midi items reliably loop the number of times the length is multiplied.
> This works a whole lot better on midi loops, which loop seamlessly; without a hitch; as perfectly as they did in an earlier 32 bit Reaper..
>
> For audio loops, I think copying and pasting the original item is a lot simpler, and, if it's a clean looping audio item, it'll loop cleaner than with this length multiplying method.
> As we discover sometimes, things don't always get better; sometimes they get worse.
> Indi
>
> On 9/1/2013 4:14 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>> Hmmm, no idea to be honest man. When I tried this workflow and it
>> didn't work last time, I assumed it was because the source media
>> wasn't recorded in that session so Reaper didn't have so much of a
>> handle on it, but thinking about it, that's probably a dumb thing to
>> think. Anyway, I just tried it again to build a trailing vocal delay,
>> and it didn't work here. I can tell that Reaper is extending the item
>> length by the right amount, but the audio itself isn't looping, so the
>> extention of length is just silence. The loop source checkbox is
>> checked in item properties.
>>
>> Anyone know where we're going wrong with this?
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On 9/1/13, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> This was an imported file I had split in to a few items.
>>>
>>> Just for gins, I did some manual de-essing by splitting out the sibalance
>>> parts of words, and lowering item volumes,
>>> on the offending parts, I had that handy so I selected one of the items with
>>> control right or left arrows and pressed enter
>>> and tabbed through item properties till I got to the beat and time settings
>>> and such, and
>>> lengthened
>>> the time, and all it did was cause the volumes of the items down stream from
>>> the item I was working on to be messed up,
>>> like caused a jerk in the amplitude,
>>> so something is definitely going on, but no looping.
>>> /But when I copy an item and paste it right next to it,
>>> it repeats or loops just fine.
>>>
>>> But it'd be nice to hear a loop so you can see if you got it right, like
>>> when processing a beat or some such.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Scott Chesworth
>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2013 2:24 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Looping
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris,
>>>
>>> Was the source material you're trying to loop recorded in the same
>>> Reaper session? I've got a feeling that makes a difference to whether
>>> Indie's workflow will work.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> On 9/1/13, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> > I've seen this posted several times but it never works that way for me.
>>> >
>>> > When I change to beats and make the number larger in an item on a track,
>>> and
>>> > even nudged down it only seems to change the envelope or volume of the
>>> items
>>> > after the item I changed, but not make the item longer.
>>> >
>>> > I've tried this with ripple both on and off.
>>> >
>>> > The only way I can loop so far is copying an item and pasting it at the
>>> end
>>> > the number of times I want, so it doubles.
>>> >
>>> > There's probably a better way to do this.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: Indigo
>>> > To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>> > Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2013 2:03 AM
>>> > Subject: Re: [RWP] Looping
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > You can loop an item in Reaper by first making sure the item is
>>> exactly
>>> > an even length, like 1, 2 or 4 measures, the most common loop
>>> lengths;
>>> > because if it is a fractional length; like 2.0.1 it will drift out
>>> of
>>> > sync with the rest of the music as it loops.
>>> > Okay, say you have a 2 measure item to loop, select the item with
>>> > shift+A or ctrl+right arrow.
>>> > Then go to Item Properties; select to display the item length in
>>> beats.
>>> > Then multiply the item's length by a multiple; which will cause the
>>> item
>>> > to loop that many times.
>>> > For instance, if the selected item is 2 measures in length, multiply
>>> its
>>> > length shown in the length field by 10 and the item will loop 10
>>> times.
>>> > You simply enter a new item length in the length field; then tab down
>>> to
>>> > OK or whatever the confirmation is; hit enter.
>>> > It will occupy the new length on the time line, with the original 2
>>> > measure item repeated 10 times.
>>> > Turn ctrl+R off, you don't need it to loop the item now.
>>> > The standard method to loop an item for sighted users is to grab the
>>> > right end of the selected item with the mouse and stretch its length
>>> > out; like stretching a rubber band; to the desired amount.
>>> > This item length multiplication method in Item Properties does
>>> exactly
>>> > the same thing.
>>> > Indi
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 8/31/2013 1:53 PM, adriandavids404 at gmail.com wrote:
>>> > > Hi Gold Fingers,
>>> > >
>>> > > I normally loop an item by setting repeat on with Control plus R.
>>> > >
>>> > > I'm not sure about loop recording as I haven't explored it yet.
>>> > >
>>> > > I hope I could have been of some help.
>>> > >
>>> > > Adrian
>>> > > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!
>>> > >
>>> > > -----Original Message-----
>>> > > From: Goldfinga Productions <goldfingas at gmail.com>
>>> > > Sender: "RWP" <rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com>
>>> > > Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 14:12:44
>>> > > To: Reapers Without Peepers<rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>> > > Reply-To: Reapers Without Peepers <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>> > > Subject: [RWP] Looping
>>> > >
>>> > > How does one go about properly looping a section? I have highlighted
>>> the
>>> > item that I would like to loop, I also turn on loop but it still
>>> doesn't
>>> > loop.
>>> > > What other steps are necessary to loop an item?
>>> > > And can you have one track looping while you record on another? Kind
>>> of
>>> > like a drum machine?
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > GF
>>> > >
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