[RWP] Wanted AHK script
Chris Belle
cb1963 at sbcglobal.net
Sun Oct 13 16:27:15 EDT 2013
I'd say as a fellow dev and teacher, the term is more accurately portrayed as being a realist.
I also agree with Steve that we should have choice, and I am also for the non-screen-reader dependant solutions, that's why I contribute and create ahk scripts.
But again, who's gonna do the work and who's gonna pay for it?
Money talks and bull shit walks.
----- Original Message -----
From: Drew
To: Reapers Without Peepers
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: [RWP] Wanted AHK script
I think you're being fairly myopic about your numbers. Let's leave it at
that.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Spamer" <steve at vipaudioaccess.com>
To: "'Reapers Without Peepers'" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [RWP] Wanted AHK script
> Drew, I totally see your point...and I am an advocate of choice believe
> me.
> I wish we had every bit as much choice as a sighted dood, but what I'm
> trying to say is about the "here and now"!
>
> NVDA with an AHK solution for all the plugs we need would be fantastic,
> but
> who's going to do it? I hope someone will, but the time/effort and
> frustrations that go along with it are not usually recognised by a
> user...and I'm not saying they should, but a good example is your comment
> that it would cost
> much less to create another cross platform solution...where did you get
> this
> idea from?
>
> There is absolutely no money to be made out of access solutions in this
> area, as the community/need is too small, so we're left with someone doing
> solutions on a personal level...that's how I usually do it and the money I
> make back hardly covers the outlay I make to hire sighted help, never mind
> the time I put in. A good example is Jim who develops HSC, my god if that
> guy got payed for the work he's done, the bill would run into the tens if
> not the hundreds of thousands, but it's free!, amazing eh. Jaws is a
> means
> to an end, an area that I have the skills to create, AHK is not at the
> moment. Don't under estimate what's required to make something
> accessible,
> think about the time it takes to learn a plug to the level you need to in
> order to script it, plus many specific HSC functions have been created to
> make certain plugs interfaces accessible...and this has been an on going
> thing...I don't know if AHK could meet our needs to such a level.
>
> The current climate gives us free HSC, free AHK, free NVDA, free/cheap
> Reaper, so I can see why Jaws would be a turn off, but I don't see how you
> come to the conclusion that it would be much cheaper to create another
> solution...unless you mean someone should do it for a couple of hundred,
> but
> put hundreds of hours work into it. Not realistic, unless you want to do
> the job? Cheers Steve.
>
> Visit:
> www.vipaudioaccess.com
> for audio access solutions, articles, demos, to showcase your music and
> to
> basically get involved!
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Drew
> Sent: 13 October 2013 13:25
> To: Reapers Without Peepers
> Subject: Re: [RWP] Wanted AHK script
>
> That's kind of a self fulfilling prophecy though. Without JAWS, you won't
> be
> able to use these JAWS spots, so even though it would cost much less to
> make
> new cross platform alternatives, you should instead pay for a screenreader
> you aren't used to because, well, everyone else does.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Spamer" <steve at vipaudioaccess.com>
> To: "'Reapers Without Peepers'" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 4:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [RWP] Wanted AHK script
>
>
>> Hi GF. David Shortland was developing AHK scripts for Omnisphere I think.
>> Ideally, some kind of conversion utility would make life so much
>> easier, as it's like reinventing the wheel each time with a new set of
>> tools for users, who like yourself have said, don't even have the doe
>> to pay for scripts...not much of an incentive is it <grin. I'm
>> surprised you have Jaws, but choose not to use it because you don't
>> want to be tied to just 1 screenreader. Unfortunately, we need choice
>> and usually have to maximize the positives from each to gain the best
>> accessibility. I know cash is the main player with Jaws, but if you
>> want to use something, then that's the way you have to go for now.
>> You wouldn't have a dedicated, shit hot DAW and then choose to use the
>> on board soundcard because you don't want to be tied to just a Mackie
>> Onyx interface or something, you'd get something that would do the
>> job. Think of Jaws as an investment in your studio, the same way you
>> do hardware, if you're serious about your music and need to access
>> plugs you otherwise couldn't. Cheers Steve.
>>
>> Visit:
>> www.vipaudioaccess.com
>> for audio access solutions, articles, demos, to showcase your music
>> and to basically get involved!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Goldfinga
>> Productions
>> Sent: 13 October 2013 01:35
>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Wanted AHK script
>>
>> I don't have an up-to-date version of jaws, or money to pay for
>> scripts at the moment. I will be able to pay a developer for a future
>> project. Plus, I don't want to be bound to 1 screenreader. I think
>> that other people should be able to enjoy the AHK scripts. I will keep
>> this in mind though, I may still check them out. Do they work with
>> Jaws 8? That's what I am authorized for. lol. Kind of old. I know.
>>
>> Thanks again.
>>
>>
>> On Oct 12, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Brian Casey <brian_w_casey at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> There's a jaws/hot spot clicker script that is outstanding. Go to
>>> vipaudioaccess.com for more. If you don't hve jaws buying it could be
>>> cheaper and definitely easier than attempt developing a comparable
>>> solution with ahk
>>>
>>> Hth
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> On 13/10/2013, at 12:30 AM, "Goldfinga Productions"
>>> <goldfingas at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Omnisphere is the plugin I am looking for AHK scripts for. Is that
>> something that can be done, or that has been done? and before everyone
>> goes on about money. Im sure that some of us will pay. I just want to
>> know if there is someone who is willing to take on the project?
>>>> Thanks for any feedback.
>>>> What do you guys think?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> GF
>>>>
>>>> Check me out on twitter
>>>> http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas
>>>>
>>>>
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>> GF
>>
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>> http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas
>>
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