[RWP] Wanted AHK script

Sun Oct 13 15:07:24 EDT 2013

Hi & Greetings from Down Under...

I would have to agree with Steve...

Before you go telling people they are myopic about there figures here some 
calculations to think about...

I am currently in the process of putting together an AHK script for 
Omnisphere as Steve alluded to in a previous email...

So far I have spent about 60 hours on this project taking into consideration 
that here in Australia Computer Techs and Software Programmers get anywhere 
from $88 per hour upwards

88 multiplied by 60 equals 5280 thats dollars...

Sighted assistance another 4 hours...

4 multiplied by 50 equals 200 thats dollars

This is just to get Access to the Patch Browser in which there are over 8100 
patches.

Then there is a MultiBrowser and a SoundSourceBrowser all of which Do Not 
Talk when focused with a ScreenReader... well at least not with 
SystemAccess.

If you have seen the videos that come with Omnisphere you will just realise 
what a mammoth task this truly is...

I estimate, and this is rather a conservative estimation that it will take 
around 200 hours or so to put this together...

Do the Math!!

That is also 200 hours away from doing Studio business.

So when you just say and I quote:
"I think you're being fairly myopic about your numbers. Let's leave it at
that."
End quote...

This is a rather glib and throw away thing to say, and comes from absolutely 
no idea of what time it takes to put these scripts together...

If you think it is easy, and will not take much time... go ahead learn AHK 
put the script together and put it out there for FREE ..., or even charge 
for it! If you make the script too expensive people may buy it, but most 
likely not... so make it affordable and you will not get your investment 
back...

If it is a FREE Script, We will all LOVE you and there will be lots of good 
will and cheer...

But I will not tolerate CRAP statements of this nature, it really makes me 
very irate...
.

David P Shortland
DragonScore Productions

-----Original Message----- 
From: Drew
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 4:05 AM
To: Reapers Without Peepers
Subject: Re: [RWP] Wanted AHK script

I think you're being fairly myopic about your numbers. Let's leave it at
that.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Spamer" <steve at vipaudioaccess.com>
To: "'Reapers Without Peepers'" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [RWP] Wanted AHK script

> Drew, I totally see your point...and I am an advocate of choice believe 
> me.
> I wish we had every bit as much choice as a sighted dood, but what I'm
> trying to say is about the "here and now"!
>
> NVDA with an AHK solution for all the plugs we need would be fantastic, 
> but
> who's going to do it?  I hope someone will, but the time/effort and
> frustrations that go along with it are not usually recognised by a
> user...and I'm not saying they should, but a good example is your comment
> that it would cost
> much less to create another cross platform solution...where did you get 
> this
> idea from?
>
> There is absolutely no money to be made out of access solutions in this
> area, as the community/need is too small, so we're left with someone doing
> solutions on a personal level...that's how I usually do it and the money I
> make back hardly covers the outlay I make to hire sighted help, never mind
> the time I put in.  A good example is Jim who develops HSC, my god if that
> guy got payed for the work he's done, the bill would run into the tens  if
> not the hundreds of thousands, but it's free!, amazing eh.  Jaws is a 
> means
> to an end, an area that I have the skills to create, AHK is not at the
> moment.  Don't under estimate what's required to make something 
> accessible,
> think about the time it takes to learn a plug to the level you need to in
> order to script it, plus many specific HSC functions have been created to
> make certain plugs interfaces accessible...and this has been an on going
> thing...I don't know if AHK could meet our needs to such a level.
>
> The current climate gives us free HSC, free AHK, free NVDA, free/cheap
> Reaper, so I can see why Jaws would be a turn off, but I don't see how you
> come to the conclusion that it would be much cheaper to create another
> solution...unless you mean someone should do it for a couple of hundred, 
> but
> put hundreds of hours work into it.  Not realistic, unless you want to do
> the job?  Cheers Steve.
>
> Visit:
> www.vipaudioaccess.com
> for audio access solutions, articles, demos, to showcase your music and to
> basically get involved!
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Drew
> Sent: 13 October 2013 13:25
> To: Reapers Without Peepers
> Subject: Re: [RWP] Wanted AHK script
>
> That's kind of a self fulfilling prophecy though. Without JAWS, you won't 
> be
> able to use these JAWS spots, so even though it would cost much less to 
> make
> new cross platform alternatives, you should instead pay for a screenreader
> you aren't used to because, well, everyone else does.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Spamer" <steve at vipaudioaccess.com>
> To: "'Reapers Without Peepers'" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 4:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [RWP] Wanted AHK script
>
>
>> Hi GF. David Shortland was developing AHK scripts for Omnisphere I think.
>> Ideally, some kind of conversion utility would make life so much
>> easier, as it's like reinventing the wheel each time with a new set of
>> tools for users, who like yourself have said, don't even have the doe
>> to pay for scripts...not much of an incentive is it <grin.  I'm
>> surprised you have Jaws, but choose not to use it because you don't
>> want to be tied to just 1 screenreader. Unfortunately, we need choice
>> and usually have to maximize the positives from each to gain the best
>> accessibility.  I know cash is the main player with Jaws, but if you
>> want to use something, then that's the way you have to go for now.
>> You wouldn't have a dedicated, shit hot DAW and then choose to use the
>> on board soundcard because you don't want to be tied to just a Mackie
>> Onyx interface or something, you'd get something that would do the
>> job.  Think of Jaws as an investment in your studio, the same way you
>> do hardware, if you're serious about your music and need to access
>> plugs you otherwise couldn't. Cheers Steve.
>>
>> Visit:
>> www.vipaudioaccess.com
>> for audio access solutions, articles, demos, to showcase your music
>> and to basically get involved!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Goldfinga
>> Productions
>> Sent: 13 October 2013 01:35
>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Wanted AHK script
>>
>> I don't have an up-to-date version of jaws, or money to pay for
>> scripts at the moment. I will be able to pay a developer for a future
>> project. Plus, I don't want to be bound to 1 screenreader. I think
>> that other people should be able to enjoy the AHK scripts. I will keep
>> this in mind though, I may still check them out. Do they work with
>> Jaws 8? That's what I am authorized for. lol. Kind of old. I know.
>>
>> Thanks again.
>>
>>
>> On Oct 12, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Brian Casey <brian_w_casey at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> There's a jaws/hot spot clicker script that is outstanding. Go to
>>> vipaudioaccess.com for more. If you don't hve jaws buying it could be
>>> cheaper and definitely easier than attempt developing a comparable
>>> solution with ahk
>>>
>>> Hth
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> On 13/10/2013, at 12:30 AM, "Goldfinga Productions"
>>> <goldfingas at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Omnisphere is the plugin I am looking for AHK scripts for. Is that
>> something that can be done, or that has been done? and before everyone
>> goes on about money. Im sure that some of us will pay. I just want to
>> know if there is someone who is willing to take on the project?
>>>> Thanks for any feedback.
>>>> What do you guys think?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> GF
>>>>
>>>> Check me out on twitter
>>>> http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>> GF
>>
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>>
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