[RWP] automation

[Indigo]

I haven't changed the settings on my Edirol PCR control surface lately, 
so I'm rusty on the terms, but there's a mode that prevents that sudden 
jump of level when you touch a control.
1 mode begins changing level from the current level and not from where 
the control is positioned at the moment.
It's like when you turn the volume up on a living room stereo with its 
endless rotary control.
With the stereo off, you can rotate that endless coder all day in any 
direction; and leave it anywhere, yet; when you switch on the stereo; 
the volume knob begins to raise or lower level from where the previous 
level was when the stereo was switched off; not from where the endless 
coder is positioned at the moment.
I'm not sure if non-motorized faders behave that way, but the endless 
coders do on all the control surfaces here; at least you can set a mode 
that causes them to behave that way.



On 5/29/2013 10:57 PM, Jim Snowbarger wrote:
> Part of the problem I have with automation controls coming from things
> like controller knobs on your keyboard, or mouse scroll wheel, is that
> the physical control doesn't move as the existing automation on the
> track is moving.  So, when you make your first controller move, it can
> be a big jump from the current value, to where your control happens to
> be pointing at the moment.
> With a motorized fater on a surface, the control updates itself in real
> time, so you start from a known starting point.
>
> I have not tried it yet, but would hope that This should be less of an
> issue with mouse movement, since the action presumably finds the current
> level, and initializes the mouse at that level.
> Has anybody actually done that with a mouse?
> How natural is the dynamic feel of moving a wheel and getting a
> prescribed and predictable response.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 11:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [RWP] automation
>
>
>> Man, how much hard work it is to find slow screen buttons to do what
>> any old control surface fader will do so much better.
>> Some of us don't realize we already have a fader or knob on our midi
>> keyboard that transmits midi data, as good as any control surface.
>> You know, we think we're lockout of using the mouse; but there's all
>> those mouse modifiers, like there's one that sets up the mouse only to
>> do vertical moves, and up raises track volume and down movement lowers
>> track volume.
>> Another mouse modifier action sets up pan with moving the mouse left
>> or right, with the pan following the mouse; or the mouse scroll wheel
>> can transmit midi CC's to automate anything.
>> These actions are specific to those automations, so using the mouse
>> after pressing that action's shortcut won't allow the mouse to screw
>> up anything else on the screen.
>> After you're finished automating with it, you then press another
>> shortcut to return the mouse to its ordinary function.
>> Indi
>>
>>
>> On 5/29/2013 11:51 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>> Alex, your workarounds never fail to simultaniously impress and crack
>>> me up man!
>>>
>>> If you're still able to hear your project above the maniacal laughter
>>> of any other musos in the room as they hear their song sounding like
>>> it's being played by an uberly stoned goth outfit from hell, this does
>>> actually work quite well.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> On 5/29/13, Alex H. <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 5/28/13, Jim Snowbarger <Snowman at snowmanradio.com> wrote:
>>>>> Yep, I held it down, and my key repeat is very fast.
>>>>> The problem is that they change one key makes is 0.05 DB.  That is
>>>>> just
>>>>> insanely small.  nobody, not even you guys with good ears can hear
>>>>> that.
>>>>
>>>> Something I just tried, and it's a hackery hackington bad time, but
>>>> works, and assuming you wanna waste the time doing it. Slow proj tempo
>>>> to a crawl and then adjust pan/volume; once you bring tempo to the
>>>> original rate it'll actually move decently. Again, not very practical,
>>>> but still kinda doable I guess.
>>>>
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