[RWP] latency in reaper

Wed May 29 22:26:51 EDT 2013

sound travels a bout one foot per millisecond through ordinary air..
So, there ya go, 10ms.  Maybe they should measure guitar cord lengh in 
milliseconds of perceived latency.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 2:26 AM
Subject: Re: [RWP] latency in reaper

> Man, 3 to 6 ms is nothing to worry about.
> When you sit with your electric guitar like 10 feet from your speakers, 
> you get latency.
> I don't have the actual figures before me, but your ears get the sound 
> from the speakers with a delay, because sounds runs fairly slowly through 
> the air between your guitar and the speaker cabinet.
> The electrical signal from the guitar through the amp to the speaker may 
> run at near the speed of light, but not sound plowing its way back through 
> the air to reach your ears
> It has a couple ms delay.
>
> On 5/29/2013 3:08 AM, Colin McDonald wrote:
>> yes, I have changed the media buffering settings as well...default is
>> 1200MS, so I don't think that has anything to do with recording latency.
>> But I've tried everything between 0 and 1200 and no change at all.
>> I'm pretty sure I'm stuck with 11MS of latency just due to the hardware
>> limitations.  And without a reverse latency offset function in reaper,
>> or, at least one that works with my machines, I'm not going to get it
>> any better than that.
>> How do you guys deal with even a few MS of latency?  I guess I'm old
>> school analogue or something or used to using hardware recorders that
>> have no latency to speak of.
>> 11MS is allot to my ears, and even 3MS would bug me.
>>
>> Regards
>> Colin
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 11:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] latency in reaper
>>
>>
>>> Colin, do you find another buffer to reduce; arrow down below midi
>>> device to buffer?
>>> Tab down in that title and there should be a second buffer that might
>>> be possible to shrink.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/28/2013 9:28 PM, Jim Snowbarger wrote:
>>>> Latency at the end of the menu bar.
>>>> Wow,  good tip,  I had not seen this.
>>>> I'm showing 7.4mS, 256 samples.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin McDonald" 
>>>> <blulemon at telus.net>
>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 12:40 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] latency in reaper
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> interestingly, if you are a jaws user, you can see the current latency
>>>>> by routing jaws to PC cursor, going to top of page and it states the
>>>>> latency in MS at the end of the menu bar....second line down.
>>>>> This is in track view with one track inserted and armed with record
>>>>> monitor set to normal.
>>>>> Mine is currently at 11MS.
>>>>> I can see changes when I alter the block size in the audio device
>>>>> settings...i've got it on 256, if I go to 512 the latency shows 17MS.
>>>>> Down to 96 and it shows 7.9ms.
>>>>> Now in the recording tab under preferences, I should be able to stick
>>>>> in negative 11 into the output offset field and it should compensate
>>>>> for that delay...
>>>>> Doesn't work though
>>>>> I should be able to put in say 200ms and get a much longer delay,
>>>>> again, no worky lol.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> COlin
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin McDonald"
>>>>> <blulemon at telus.net>
>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 10:45 PM
>>>>> Subject: [RWP] latency in reaper
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well i switched to asio for all again as my audio driver and the
>>>>>> latency definitely dropped to about half of what it was with direct
>>>>>> sound or wdm or wav out...but it's still very apparent...like having
>>>>>> a short slap back echo on everything.
>>>>>> I went and tried to adjust the recording latency in the preferences
>>>>>> under recording...there is an input, and output latency adjustment
>>>>>> there, but no matter what I put in there, it made absolutely no
>>>>>> difference.  Tried from posative and negative 10 all the way up to
>>>>>> 200MS in all the fields, in different combinations etc etc, and there
>>>>>> is no difference between having 0's in those fields and putting any
>>>>>> type of number in there.
>>>>>> Any thoughts guys?
>>>>>> I turned off the automatically detect reported latency check box
>>>>>> beside the edit fields.  Maybe there is something somewhere else that
>>>>>> I have checked, or unchecked that is preventing these manual
>>>>>> input/output adjustments from functioning correctly.
>>>>>> I've done this same thing in audacity as I said, and I just kept
>>>>>> changing the value by a few MS until there was zero slap back echo
>>>>>> effect happening...you could really hear it change if you went too
>>>>>> far or not far enough.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Colin
>>>>>>
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