[RWP] automation

Wed May 29 22:32:50 EDT 2013

Chris, you got it right earlier. Reper was designed by programmers, who 
might even happened to be musicians.  Or, maybe they just had friends who 
were.

The thing is, sometimes that is exactly what you would want.  Consider that 
your channel slider is nominally 0 db, which is just fine for most of the 
mix.
When you touch up with automation, very often you are just trying to twiddle 
one little passage.  And then, you want to go back to the standard 0db level 
that you  were generally happy with, except for this passage you just 
twiddled.  This just puts it back there for you when you drop off.  So, you 
don't have to worry about untwiddling.  That seems like a normal course of 
events.
And, with this action, you have the option to tell it otherwise if you want.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Belle" <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 2:35 AM
Subject: Re: [RWP] automation

> That's just ridiculous though, having to extend an envelope and fill to 
> the end of a track.
>
> To me, that's like bad design.
>
> How would you like to twist a knob on your board and when you let go it 
> went back to where it was before you touched it?
>
> Reaper looses the vote on that particular feature.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 2:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [RWP] automation
>
>
>> You have an action in the Reaper actions list, brought up with F4; that 
>> writes the current envelope levels to the end of project.
>> In the search edit box at the top of the actions list you can type in 
>> automation write and you'll get only automation actions in the list you 
>> tab down to.
>> Arrow down in that list field.
>>
>> After selecting that action to fill the remaining part of the track with 
>> the current written levels; assign a shortcut to that action.
>>
>> On 5/28/2013 5:18 AM, Derek Lane wrote:
>>> Write, latch and touch record with the keyboard.
>>> I can get volume and pan to record, but nothing else.  Also, the instant
>>> I press stop, the volume/pan resets to the project settings.  Short of
>>> playing the project to its end, I know of no other way to make something
>>> move and stay.
>>> I could record a demo if anyone would like.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/28/2013 2:18 AM, Chris Belle wrote:
>>>> Not managed to do that either, tried turning on write and doing f5 and
>>>> then switching to read like I did with the pan and volume but it won't
>>>> work the same way.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Perdue" 
>>>> <patrick at pdaudio.net>
>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 12:04 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] automation
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On that note, how about recording track mutes in automation? I can't
>>>>> manage to do this even with a control surface using Reaper 3.78, and
>>>>> I have seen forums referencing people doing this even with older
>>>>> versions than that.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/27/2013 11:08 PM, Indigo wrote:
>>>>>> Something must have got corrupted in the Reaper x86 version 4.4402 I
>>>>>> keep on this machine, only for reference, so I reverted it back to
>>>>>> factory specs and uninstalled and reinstalled it, just to be 150
>>>>>> percent
>>>>>> certain.
>>>>>> Now it loads the plugsit wouldn't before, and write and read 
>>>>>> automation
>>>>>> work as expected from alt+up/down arrows.
>>>>>> When you tried alt+up or down, did you try standing on the up down
>>>>>> arrow
>>>>>> to get quick changes
>>>>>> I mean it's not super quick, but it's at least as fast a slope for
>>>>>> fadeout as anybody would ordinarily use for a fadeout or fade in.
>>>>>> In a couple of seconds I'm getting up around plus 20 and 30db, same
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> holding the down arrow..
>>>>>> I didn't time it, but I could probably get to silence around minus 
>>>>>> 70db
>>>>>> in five or six seconds, maybe less.
>>>>>> I had the same experience here as others, I couldn't tell that read
>>>>>> mode
>>>>>> was recording anything.
>>>>>> Touch mode also didn't seem to record.
>>>>>> I wasn't totally certain about latch mode; once I thought it did,
>>>>>> then I
>>>>>> couldn't replicate that.
>>>>>> Next time I'll try touch and latch, then look at undo to learn if 
>>>>>> it's
>>>>>> saying undo automation?
>>>>>> Maybe touch and latch are recording, but the recorded envelope is not
>>>>>> playing back, because of some setting I don't know about.
>>>>>> Also, for some reason the clear envelope points and other useful
>>>>>> actions
>>>>>> in track view/envelope subMenu are disabled.
>>>>>> I couldn't find any way to enable them.
>>>>>> I ran a clear envelope points action directly from the actions list, 
>>>>>> no
>>>>>> joy.
>>>>>> Yes, no need to activate volume in the envelope subMenu, it's
>>>>>> automatically activated when you use alt+up arrow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Even standing on the button, , no way that clunky alt+up arrow is 
>>>>>> gonna
>>>>>> be a tenth as agile as even the simplest fader on any old piece of
>>>>>> gear.
>>>>>> It's that old common sense sales pitch they use to sell you a control
>>>>>> surface, would you rather crunch numbers or get real world hands on
>>>>>> control of your music?
>>>>>> Indi
>>>>>>
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