[RWP] automation (Abandonware)

Chris Belle cb1963 at sbcglobal.net
Wed May 29 16:35:41 EDT 2013


I would too GF.

I guess we both have bad tempers, I shouldn't let that old guy push my hot 
buttons, but I turned 50 saturday, and I've decided I'm just not going to 
put up with any more shit from people, I don't care who they are.

I have not been rude I have made some comparisons and that is my right, but 
I'm here to learn, and I don't wish to be attacked or have snide remarks 
made just because I say something and upset someone's sacred cow.

It's just software, and we're supposed to evaluate it and rate it, and 
mentioning reaper or sonar or any other daw in a contexual manner for most 
inteligent people shouldn't cause iritation or ire.

I guess god didn't put much back down in me 'smile'.

Onward and upward.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Goldfinga Productions" <goldfingas at gmail.com>
To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [RWP] automation (Abandonware)


> If we could keep the personal attacks off this list, I know iPhone one 
> would appreciate it. All of this bashing back and forth is not really 
> necessary, is it? Now if you ladies could kindly take that elsewhere, 
> maybe we can make some moves with this software development.
>
> On May 29, 2013, at 2:02 PM, "Chris Belle" <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> I'm more inclined to take the advice of someone who's actually working in 
>> a production environment and has been a resident super brain in our 
>> community than an 80 year old who doesn't know what he doesn't know, only 
>> runs his mouth.
>>
>> I don't want to scare off anyone, but learn what works best and I don't 
>> claim to know it all, but I like hanging around people who do know 
>> things, and learning from them.
>>
>> Because of the open source nature of reaper, and the very low price 
>> point, i doubt AI'll get students from this side of the fence, but if I 
>> do, I'll be ready to teach them something.
>>
>> that's why I'm here, and that's why I've put forth challenges, and asked 
>> questions, and yes, made comparisons.
>>
>> I hope I'm still teachable when I'm 80 years old, instead of being so 
>> stubborn i won't even plug in a pedal like it's supposed to be used to 
>> make it work, a fool is someone who goies around on forums hoping he'll 
>> hear a different answer when he gets told 3 times by someone that the 
>> best way to use a piece of gear is to just plug it in,
>> said people who have been doing recording for years in a
>> professional manner, like the guys over at hrs,
>>
>> but he insists on making something twice as hard as it should be and 
>> using something in a way it was never intended to be used.
>>
>> How many times has that same fool come and asked me questions and argued 
>> till the cows came home, and then after all sorts of messing around found 
>> out that hey, he got told the right thing but wouldn't believe it, and 
>> this sort of obstant behavior is why you probably haven't gotten any 
>> music done.
>>
>> I wonder how long it'll take him to ask the same question again.
>>
>> Is senility creeping in perhaps?
>>
>> That might be kind of fun, waking up in a new world every day.
>>
>> But it sure is tiresome to some of us who are actually trying to get work 
>> done.
>>
>> hey, let's dispell any myths about me not wanting people to use reaper, I 
>> hope reaper really takes off, then I can justify paying a programmer to 
>> make it work better for me, and not be several  versions behind anymore.
>>
>> and while you're still trying to figure out how to plug in your pedal via 
>> usb and get your interface to go line level, I'll be happily making music 
>> and teaching others how to do so, and you won't have done your first 
>> song.
>>
>> So old fool, if you have a problem with me, be a man and come tgalk to me 
>> about it and don't make shitty little remarks like a third grader.
>>
>> Remember, i said, an opinion given is not an opinion forced.
>>
>> The next classic move is he'll get mad and block me, and try to get 
>> others to do the same.
>>
>> it's a popularity contest and a big game for the old vampire.
>>
>> Well, maybe I am the stupid one in a way thinking this old faker was ever 
>> my friend.
>>
>> As long as your tickling his pretend
>> wanna be
>> hey look how good I'm doing because I pasted all this stuff from wiki I'm 
>> working hard bone, and give him praise for it, your his best buddy.
>>
>> Well, I'm calling him on it, he's produced no music, hasn't done a damned 
>> thing with what he's learned in 15 years.
>>
>> to me results are what counts, my students after just a few sessions some 
>> of them have started working on albums, and I have testimonials on my 
>> website, and
>> lots of great relationships with people to last a lifetime who have taken 
>> what they learned and done something with it.
>>
>> I really love it when they come back and teach me something I didn't 
>> know.
>>
>> That's the greatest reward a teacher can have.
>>
>> i wasted 10 years on this guy though, that's what the shame of it is.
>>
>> So if i have a fault, it's I believe in the wrong people sometimes,
>> and allow them to waste my time, but I learned  from my mistake.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 12:21 PM
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] automation (Abandonware)
>>
>>
>>> I wish I could find something broken in Version 4 that isn't easily 
>>> fixed with a workaround, but I just can't
>>> I run it on 2 very different computers; and used to run it on several 
>>> ten year old machines.
>>> Now I have no problems with the latest version 4 on an Intel I7 offline, 
>>> with Wineyes, in XP, and have the x64 version on this AMD computer, and 
>>> both run no problems.
>>> I run the x64 version just for answering questions about it with NVDA in 
>>> Windows 7 64, because Window-eyes won't run the 64 bit version.
>>> That's Wineyes fault, because all the other screenreaders run the 64 bit 
>>> version.
>>>
>>> You know, the only gripe I have is the menus not displaying with the alt 
>>> key.
>>> Sometimes they begin dropping with alt, but mostly I have to reach up to 
>>> F10 to make them display.
>>> It's an old  habit to press alt for menus, then arrow through the 
>>> displayed menus.
>>> I'm now pressing alt+I; to bring up the insert menu, etcetera; which 
>>> always was a quicker way to work that I should have been using.
>>>
>>> I don't dis sonar 8.5.3, and value it for its matrix view; , but it does 
>>> load very slowly, and crashes with half an excuse.
>>> I have Jaws 12, and these Reaper version 4's run fine on it too.
>>> Maybe folks are blaming version 4 Reaper for what Jaws 64 bit 13 or 14 
>>> is doing to it.
>>> At least Jaws runs 64 bit Reaper, Window-Eyes doesn't.
>>> I also forgive the poor sour old guy who's only on RWP hoping to scare 
>>> off new Reaper users, that might have been sonar students; in his 
>>> fantasy world.
>>> It won't work, they'll learn to use Reaper  anyway.
>>> Indi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> .
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/29/2013 12:22 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>>> Tell glass half full to anyone who's stuck in 3.78 for a legitimate
>>>> reason and see how it goes down. That situation is happening now for
>>>> some people, depending on their hardware and usage. I love Reaper,
>>>> it's the only DAW I've felt comfortable enough in to switch away from
>>>> Pro Tools, I intend to use it as much as I can for as long as I can,
>>>> but see little point in denying that there's a problem sneaking up on
>>>> us here. If someone with the time and skills to start a fresh doesn't
>>>> pop up, in a couple years time you're gonna be in a worse situation
>>>> than the Sonar folks you were just bashing are in right now. Glass
>>>> half full will only take you and the rest of us so far, valuable as
>>>> that progress may be.
>>>>
>>>> Scott
>>>>
>>>> On 5/29/13, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>>>>> I don't know how international copyrights would apply, but much of
>>>>> ReaAccess uses standard Reaper custom actions, which anybody is free 
>>>>> to
>>>>> use.
>>>>> Plenty of sighted users on the Cockos forums have set up their own
>>>>> custom actions, custom layouts, custom toolbars, custom menus, and
>>>>> nobody is trying to copyright them and hoard the rights.
>>>>> If you read what Justin Frankel says about Reaper itself, you are
>>>>> invited to add to it and enhance it as much as you want.
>>>>> I think ReaAccess is great myself.
>>>>> Some people seem to live on carping about what something lacks, 
>>>>> instead
>>>>> of learning to use and enjoying what it has.
>>>>> It's that old glass half empty or glass half full thing.
>>>>> They should chill out, take an antidepressant or something.
>>>>> Indi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/29/2013 7:40 AM, jinseng at yandex.ru wrote:
>>>>>> Ivan didn't reply nor to Reaperians niether to his russian mates if 
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> ask him about ReaAccess. Russian website of Reaccess is frosen. I 
>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>> succede trying to know news about reoganised ReaAccess crew in 
>>>>>> Russia. So
>>>>>> everybody is free to start ReaAccess again. By the way, the name of 
>>>>>> our
>>>>>> project was invented by Scott so if Moscow guys wish to continue they 
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> choose new name, it doesn't matter though.
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Jinseng.
>>>>>>
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