[RWP] Question about downloading SWS files

Mon May 27 13:58:39 EDT 2013

That's not the way it works in the real recording world, being able to do 
snapshots and scenes is huge, and being able to do it from within the daw 
negates the issues
of lack of standards in the control surface world.

That's like saying chicken is the only thing you can barbecue.

Using the input keyboard, a midi keyboard, allowing snapshot set points, and 
drawing mouse curves is all relevant.

One thing snapshots has over control surface knobs is being able to very 
precisely place settings,
and being able to stop the transport and place them.

And this is the way it was done before control surfaces came around.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [RWP] Question about downloading SWS files

> I'm in total agreement, I'd not worry about automating from anything 
> except a hardware control.
> If I didn't want to spend much, I'd rather buy a used piece of quality 
> gear.
> I had a Korg NanoKontrol and couldn't bear the flimsyness, and the Korg 
> editor is totally inaccessible.
> There are so many old hardware control surfaces out there, with great 
> quality controls, and some last a very long time.
> Edirol made crappy quality control surfaces for several models,like the 
> PCR-30, PCR-50, PCR-80; PCR-M1;  but finally got it right in the later 
> PCR-300/500/800  series, same as the Roland Cakewalk A Pro series.
> My PCR-300 is wonderfully reliable,and has an accessible editor for 
> configuring it.
> Any of those Made in Japan Roland or Yamaha, or Korg units from the 1990's 
> that has a couple of assignable faders that transmit midi data would do 
> great, and cost very little.
> It doesn't need to be something as large as a midi keyboard, I'd look for 
> an old hardware sequencer with assignable faders, or an old groove 
> machine, or many older models of control surfaces that sell for next to 
> nothing on eBay.
> In preferences midi device, Reaper will recognize midi controller messages 
> from anything that transmits
> I'll bet an iPod or iPad with a midi interface could do it; with touch 
> gestures; so you'd feel like a magician. smile.
> Indi
>
>
> On 5/27/2013 7:27 AM, TheOreoMonster wrote:
>> Not sure as i havent tried it yet. Scott may know better on this one as 
>> hes been using them longer  than i and is the one who turned me on to 
>> them. It doesnt appear to have a way to automate reaconsole stuff which 
>> is the bulk of what i use. Though something like the Korg Nano Kontrol is 
>> stupid cheap enough that most of us could probbly afford to keep one 
>> around if we do automation alot.
>>
>> On May 26, 2013, at 7:04 PM, Indigo wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, OreoMonster,
>>> Installation of the 32 bit SWS files went without a hitch in XP.
>>> I'm already experimenting with them.
>>> I'm wondering if they can ever be automated; and if so, can they be 
>>> automated by all the different means that native Reaper actions can; 
>>> like on screen faders, control surfaces, etcetera.
>>> I noticed that when Jim Snowbarger tried to use Zenaki's Nudge Volume Up 
>>> by 1db increments, I'm improvising its exact title; Jim said it didn't 
>>> write automation data to the volume envelope.
>>> I also read that same thing on a Cockos forum, though the post was a 
>>> couple years old.
>>> Do you know if Xenaki actions and SWS actions can now be made to write 
>>> automation data; or used as a part of a custom action that writes 
>>> automation data?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Indi
>>>
>>> On 5/25/2013 12:21 PM, TheOreoMonster wrote:
>>>> Let us know how the  installation goes as i am using 64 BIT across the 
>>>> board so can't comment. The steleath browser while providing privacy, 
>>>> problaby doesn't do all that much more for security. Nothing is  100% 
>>>> virus proof, things can be made more robust and a lot more secure 
>>>> though. Personally i never had any issues when using windows 7 for a 
>>>> DAW machine and much preferred it to XP.  Also since XP is 32 bit OS, 
>>>> its not taking as much advantage of the 3 or 4GB of ram as you may 
>>>> think it is. But if it works and it aint broken, keep on keeping on I 
>>>> say.
>>>>
>>>> On May 25, 2013, at 9:32 AM, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well, I'm hoping I can download 32 bit SWS files on a 64 bit online 
>>>>> computer; for use on my 32 bit off line daw.
>>>>> This online computer is running 64 bit Win7.
>>>>> I'll try downloading the SWS files with the 64 bit installer, then 
>>>>> take what I get to my daw on a thumb drive.
>>>>> If I absolutely have no choice, I can plug the ethernet cable into the 
>>>>> daw just to download the proper SWS files.
>>>>> For a while I ran a stealth  browser, on my daw when I occasionally 
>>>>> needed to download files, or register programs; I've forgotten its 
>>>>> name, but it was said to not send out anything from your computer, 
>>>>> even the chip ID.
>>>>> It was just barely accessible, with a fair amount of work to run.
>>>>> I was never sure if it provided any advantage against virus infection.
>>>>>
>>>>> Win7 64 is certainly more robust than XP ever was; and survives much 
>>>>> longer online without virus infection.
>>>>> I love the stability of XP for music making though, and 3 or 4 gigs of 
>>>>> ram is plenty for me.
>>>>> I have wondered if hardware barriers like the Barracuta really provide 
>>>>> hundred percent protection.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Indi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/24/2013 10:58 PM, TheOreoMonster wrote:
>>>>>> if your offline daw is running 32 bit reaper with 32 bit windows. Use 
>>>>>> the 32 bit installer on that one. On your online machine are u using 
>>>>>> 32 bit reaper or 64 bit reaper? If 64 bit reaper wit 64 bit windows 7 
>>>>>> then 64 bit installer. If using the 32 bit reaper on win 7 64 bit 
>>>>>> not sure which way that goes, if sws has to match your reaper version 
>>>>>> or windows version.
>>>>>> On May 24, 2013, at 8:33 PM, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When at the SWS website, I downloaded both the 32 and 64 bit 
>>>>>>> installer, but don't know which to use.
>>>>>>> My 32 bit daw is off line, and I'will be using the SWS actions for 
>>>>>>> that, so do I try to install the 32 bit installer in this online 
>>>>>>> computer, or just install the 64 bit installer to be appropriate for 
>>>>>>> the Windows 7 64 operating system; then go to the SWS website and 
>>>>>>> try to download 32 bit SWS actions that will run in my 32 bit daw?
>>>>>>> I hope I stated it clearly, the online computer is 64 bit, but the 
>>>>>>> off line daw with Reaper is 32 bits.
>>>>>>> So, which SWS install file do I use?
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Indi
>>>>>>>
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