[RWP] autotuning in reaper?

Sun May 26 16:26:36 EDT 2013

Please do talk about AHK here.
I hope to learn it yet.
In one discussion of Reaper actions, it was noted that AHK is not a 
native Reaper action, and can't make the same calls as a native action, 
so runs the danger that Reaper can change and make the AHK script not 
run, but I believe that's already been got round by AHK scripters.
I'll try to find more on that.
Indi

On 5/26/2013 1:20 AM, David P Shortland wrote:
> Hi & Greetings from Sunday afternoon on the Sunshine Coast
>
> Okay firstly, if anyone has a problem with discussing AHK matters on
> this REAPER forum just say so and I will take it off list and talk to
> Steve directly.
>
> You are correct in saying that AHK is a complete programming environment
> and sometimes it just goes on and on with what it can do...
>
> The trouble is that with most programming environments the people who
> right them and then the subsequent documentation is actually written for
> programmers and not for us lesser mortals...*chuckle*. That is most of
> the examples they give, and I must say they give plenty of examples,
> just go right over my head. Mayhap, I am just a mere dummy...*chuckle*
>
> However, when it comes to my skills with AHK so far, and I may add, tis
> truly very minor in the grand scheme of things, I have been dabbling
> with colour matchingfor feedback concerning the browsers that I have
> been wanting to access. What this means is that when the browsers are
> open the screen is a certain colour in a specific location and that
> colour is different when the browser is closed. As I say, I am just
> dabbling and I am not sure if this is really what is necessary, but I
> can only do what I have been able to glean from the documentation.
>
> Actually I only thought there were three browsers, the first being the
> MultiBrowser, the second being the PatchBrowser and the third being the
> SampleWaveformBrowser.
>
> My current way of accessing the PatchBrowser is to of written my own
> browser which comes up in a window each category is in a drop down list
> and each menu item then gives rise to the next column/window and so on
> until you get down to your presets...
> I then have a co-ord that places me at the top of the Patch/Preset list
> which has been sorted as the windows do their thing... I can then use
> the normal cursor keys, up and down to navigate the list.
>
> My partner, bless her little cotton sox, has been my eyes for all
> testing, and sometimes had to endure my bursts of frustration as 9 times
> out of 10 matters do not go as expected...
>
> In the back of my mind are the words ... Patience ... Persistance ...
> Patience ... Persistence...
>
> If this is really going to go anywhere, I need to start looking at
> setting some time aside just for AHK, but where in the 24 hours a day we
> are granted do I do that...
>
> Then there is STILL ...all the REAPER stuff....
>
> Take care all...
>
> David P Shortland
> DragonScore Productions
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Steve Spamer
> Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 8:30 PM
> To: 'Reapers Without Peepers'
> Subject: Re: [RWP] autotuning in reaper?
>
> Well done David, nice to hear.  Just interested, but how are you getting
> feedback from AHK?  I'm working with AHK and SAPI at the moment, so
> wondering if you're using another approach or not bothering.  Omnisphere
> has
> a vast amount of windows and clicking in the wrong one could really bugger
> things up, like in the browsers...which browser have you made
> accessible, as
> there are 4 different browsers?  I'm tempted to dip into converting a set I
> have done with HSC, but I really need to grasp the core functions and nuts
> and bolts of AHK before doing so.
>
> I'm using a plug as a test bed for AHK and am pleased so far, but there's
> much to understand if I'm going to do things proprerly, at the moment it
> works, but I'm sure the code could be more efficient etc. It's all a
> learning curve...and time is the biggest killer, not having enough, well,
> not enough time for the learning to sink in and stick.
>
> I've been impressed with AHK and what it's possibilities are, but I don't
> yet have the skills to be able to utilize it, even if I have the ideas on
> how to achieve an objective.  It really is a programming environment...HSC
> has the specific and direct functions to work with, so reaching an
> objective
> is a matter of embracing virtually all of what it has to offer.  Also,
> don't
> forget having Mr Snowman's support is invaluable when problems are
> encountered, which is inevitable., Another thing is I've found the
> forums on
> AHK don't yield good results, unless you're asking something about  AHK
> which is complex...a simple question doesn't seem to get answered, well
> that's my experience so far.  One problem I'm experiencing, is it has so
> many aspects that are not relevant to us as VIP's and what we're trying to
> achieve, so it's a matter of understanding enough to know what is useful
> and
> what we need to concentrate on...and what we don't need to. Cheers Steve.
>
> Visit:
> www.vipaudioaccess.com
> for audio access solutions, articles, demos, to showcase your music and  to
> basically get involved!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of David P Shortland
> Sent: 24 May 2013 21:26
> To: Reapers Without Peepers
> Subject: Re: [RWP] autotuning in reaper?
>
> Hi & Greetings from The Sunshine Coast
>
> Omnisphere is completely inaccessable I believe for all ScreenReaders.
>
> I have been slowly putting together an AHK Set for this virtual synth, but
> unfortunately music production takes precedence over learning and writing
> AHK material.
>
> So far though, I can now access the browser with all its categories, the
> search field, and the program/preset list.., and have started work on the
> Parts Section...
>
> I must say though that Omnisphere is an incredible synth...
>
> Take care all
>
> David P Shortland
> DragonScore Productions
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Perdue
> Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 6:46 PM
> To: Reapers Without Peepers
> Subject: Re: [RWP] autotuning in reaper?
>
> David:
> How are you using Omnisphere with System Access? I haven't tried it yet
> myself, though I want to, but I was under the impression that you
> couldn't do much without lots of hotspots from HSC.
>
> On 5/24/2013 4:40 AM, Chris Belle wrote:
>> That vst stability is something they may have finally addressed in the
>> later versions.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David P Shortland"
>> <dragamilov at comcen.com.au>
>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 4:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] autotuning in reaper?
>>
>>
>> Hi & Greetings from Queensland
>>
>> Just to put the other side of the coin...
>>
>> I run REAPER 64 Version 4.402 on Windoes7 with System Access
>>
>> Never had any trouble whatsoever with REAPER not scanning any the VST
>> directories.
>>
>> I rund both 32 and 64 bit plugs and the only one REAPER has trouble with
>> has
>> been Dimension Pro....
>>
>>  From Spectrasonics Omnisphere to Alchemy, Garritan Personal Orchestra to
>> Ivory2 and even the Korg Legacy Collection all perform as expected...
>>
>> I can usually get Dimension Pro to work but I Have to do a little
>> AltTabbing
>> etc, to finally get the window to show properly, but once in place with
>> AHK
>> can effectively get to the Programs that it has
>>
>> And that is just the Virtual Synths... Nomad Factories Blue Tubes and
>> Tone2
>> WarmVerb a few Izotope plugs, plus several other 32bit fx plugs ... all
>> are
>> scanned and show up without hassle.
>>
>> Just as an aside, the computer that I use in my studio is dedicated to
>> music
>> production. I run System Access from a USB drive, but have installed
>> NVDA as
>> a BackUp.
>>
>> It never goes on the net, nor does it have any other programs that
>> need to
>> be there other than System Essentials...
>>
>> That's it
>>
>> Take care all
>>
>> David P Shortland
>> DragonScore Productions
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Chris Belle
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 7:22 AM
>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] autotuning in reaper?
>>
>> Another issue with reaper, which for all it's promise I always had
>> trouble
>> with the vst implementation, and plug-in scanning in general.
>>
>> Not as stable as we would like.
>>
>> But it's still early days for reaper.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 9:11 AM
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] autotuning in reaper?
>>
>>
>> I just pasted the GSnap dll into Reaper 64's VST destination folder;
>> which is Steinberg\VSTPlugins on this computer; , and; running NVDA; I
>> couldn't get Reaper 64 to even load GSnap.
>> I ran Reaper's Clear Cache Rescan several times; which is Reaper's  most
>> extreme method of forceing it to recognize a plug, no luck.
>> I couldn't find a 64 bit version of GSnap that's labeled as for 64 bit
>> Windows; unless maybe the plug is assumed to be for both 32 and 64 bits.
>> Online, I read forum posts from folks running GSnap in Reaper 64, so
>> don't understand why it won't load.
>> Thanks for any reports of your experience with it,
>> Indi
>>
>> On 5/21/2013 5:21 AM, Steve Spamer wrote:
>>> Regarding GSnap, Tim Burgess has an HSC file for it over at:
>>> http://www.raisedbar.net/articles.htm
>>> but not sure if it will be of any use, as most on here are NVDA users.
>>> Anyway, it may be handy, cheers
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> Visit:
>>> www.vipaudioaccess.com
>>> for audio access solutions, articles, demos, to showcase your music
>>> and to
>>> basically get involved!
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Indigo
>>> Sent: 20 May 2013 23:43
>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] autotuning in reaper?
>>>
>>> I used GSnap with Window-Eyes in 32 bits.
>>> I suppose bridge intends to somehow bridge something to 64 bit
>>> windows 7.
>>> What did you do when bridge came up?
>>> Would none of it talk?
>>> Did you try route to focus numPad insert and the numpad -minus key?
>>> Did you try numPad insert and the 7 key?
>>> Sorry, NVDA doesn't cover everything, unfortunately.
>>> What's accessible in Wineyes or Jaws may not be, and vice versa.
>>> Indi
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/20/2013 4:33 PM, Oriol Gómez wrote:
>>>> Hi Indi,
>>>> Thanks for your email.
>>>> You mean gSnap is accessible' I just tried it and it came up with
>>>> something called gSnap bridge, which was a window that NVDA did not
>>>> recognize at all.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 5/20/13, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Oriol,
>>>>> The VST pitch-correcting plugs  here work, and are free.
>>>>> They're simpler than Antares AutoTune, but make the same Cher Effect,
>>>>> which I also like very much.
>>>>> The top free plug on the list definitely is accessible, and I think
>>>>> the
>>>>> second on the list is also, but it's been a while since I tried it.
>>>>> Don't know if scripts are available, or needed; since they're very
>>> simple.
>>>>> They're freeware VST plugs, and do pitch correction when a track's
>>>>> output is fed through them, and I seem to remember that the pitch
>>>>> can be
>>>>> set from playing notes on a midi keyboard as well.
>>>>> Indi
>>>>>
>>>
> http://bedroomproducersblog.com/2011/07/25/bpb-freeware-studio-best-free-pit
>
>>>
>>> ch-correction-auto-tune-vstau-plugins/
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/20/2013 8:23 AM, Oriol Gómez wrote:
>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>> I'm looking to add some autotuning to one of my songs because I like
>>>>>> the metallic effect that it gives it. Is reaTune an option?
>>>>>> I don't know if it is accessible, I have tried loading the reaTune
>>>>>> plugin but it seems not to be completely accessible as I can't switch
>>>>>> from manual tuning to autotune with NVDA.
>>>>>> Does anyone have any hints? Is there a more accessible workaround?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> Oriol.
>>>>>>
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