[RWP] Access to Omnisphere and GSnap, was Re: autotuning in reaper?

Sat May 25 21:36:04 EDT 2013

You and me both, David.
I apoligize for saying GSnap was accessible, when I should have said I 
found it reasonably accessible with Window-Eyes.
I got it loaded into Reaper x64 today, running NVDA; and found a way; by 
setting Reaper Always on Top; in the view menu, so I could actually 
click on parameters like attack, decay, frequency, gate, and others, but 
I never was sure if the numbers at the edit box meant anything.
I could type in new numbers and find them reflected with changed numbers 
at the NVDA number pad, but what an uncertain business NVDA's object 
navigation  is on certain plugs.
I'm sure we all know that each screenreader has its strengths and 
weaknesses.
NVDA does beautifully on the bundled effects in Reaper.
I noticed that it says collapsed at the end of certain parameters, so I 
know to right arrow to get more parameters.
I don't think Wineyes says that.
I remember someone telling me that he gets at Omnisphere presets without 
scripts, but didn't provide details how he does it.
Same with Native Instruments Kontakt, several times I heard about 
loading libraries without either HSC or AHK scripts.
There were a couple of blind musicians using Reaper before ReaAccess.
I tried looking at Reaper with ReaAccess not loaded, just to learn how 
easy or difficult it would have been.
It could be possible, but not much fun, I'd guess.
Good luck on getting full access to Omnisphere with System Access, I'm 
sure you will, it just requires energy and sufficient time.
Indi

On 5/25/2013 8:24 PM, David P Shortland wrote:
> Hi & Greetings from the Sunshine Coast
>
> I would just like to give my apologies, as it was an oversight (pun not
> intended) not to mention the HSC Set that is available for Omnisphere &
> JAWS from Steve at vipaudioaccess.
>
> It was just my intention to let people know that Omnisphere straight out
> of the box and without any enhancement software for our screen readers
> is not accessable.
>
> It opens up and just sits there (at least for me), gloating that it has
> all this world of wonderful sounds, and just because I cannot see, they
> are all not available... oh yes... it does have the obligatory saw tooth
> wave as a sound... notw there is a lot I can do with...*chuckle*
>
> I have approached Spectrasonics Support on several occasions, but I must
> say they have been less than helpful. One email I received and I
> paraphrase ... "well, our interface is not written for blind users, so
> you will just have to get sighted help"... this was after I had
> purchased the product and had it up and running...
>
> I have not even approached them from a "I am a Blind User so can you do
> this for me" perspective.... I was just trying to get some information
> back from them concerning the browsers and how the tagging system worked
> and whether there was a database available that one could use...
>
> As i said, less than helpful....
>
> At least now, I have access to all 8000 plus sounds, so in some respects
> I am a happy chappy... Personally, the Human Voices and Choirs are
> absolutely beautiful and very very usable...
>
> Take care all
>
> David P Shortland
> DragonScore Productions
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Jim Snowbarger
> Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 7:57 AM
> To: Reapers Without Peepers
> Subject: Re: [RWP] autotuning in reaper?
>
> For what it's worth, HSC sets exist for Omnisphere, for use with jaws.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David P Shortland"
> <dragamilov at comcen.com.au>
> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 3:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [RWP] autotuning in reaper?
>
>
> Hi & Greetings from The Sunshine Coast
>
> Omnisphere is completely inaccessable I believe for all ScreenReaders.
>
> I have been slowly putting together an AHK Set for this virtual synth, but
> unfortunately music production takes precedence over learning and writing
> AHK material.
>
> So far though, I can now access the browser with all its categories, the
> search field, and the program/preset list.., and have started work on the
> Parts Section...
>
> I must say though that Omnisphere is an incredible synth...
>
> Take care all
>
> David P Shortland
> DragonScore Productions
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Perdue
> Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 6:46 PM
> To: Reapers Without Peepers
> Subject: Re: [RWP] autotuning in reaper?
>
> David:
> How are you using Omnisphere with System Access? I haven't tried it yet
> myself, though I want to, but I was under the impression that you
> couldn't do much without lots of hotspots from HSC.
>
> On 5/24/2013 4:40 AM, Chris Belle wrote:
>> That vst stability is something they may have finally addressed in the
>> later versions.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David P Shortland"
>> <dragamilov at comcen.com.au>
>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 4:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] autotuning in reaper?
>>
>>
>> Hi & Greetings from Queensland
>>
>> Just to put the other side of the coin...
>>
>> I run REAPER 64 Version 4.402 on Windoes7 with System Access
>>
>> Never had any trouble whatsoever with REAPER not scanning any the VST
>> directories.
>>
>> I rund both 32 and 64 bit plugs and the only one REAPER has trouble with
>> has
>> been Dimension Pro....
>>
>>  From Spectrasonics Omnisphere to Alchemy, Garritan Personal Orchestra to
>> Ivory2 and even the Korg Legacy Collection all perform as expected...
>>
>> I can usually get Dimension Pro to work but I Have to do a little
>> AltTabbing
>> etc, to finally get the window to show properly, but once in place
>> with AHK
>> can effectively get to the Programs that it has
>>
>> And that is just the Virtual Synths... Nomad Factories Blue Tubes and
>> Tone2
>> WarmVerb a few Izotope plugs, plus several other 32bit fx plugs ...
>> all are
>> scanned and show up without hassle.
>>
>> Just as an aside, the computer that I use in my studio is dedicated to
>> music
>> production. I run System Access from a USB drive, but have installed
>> NVDA as
>> a BackUp.
>>
>> It never goes on the net, nor does it have any other programs that
>> need to
>> be there other than System Essentials...
>>
>> That's it
>>
>> Take care all
>>
>> David P Shortland
>> DragonScore Productions
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Chris Belle
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 7:22 AM
>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] autotuning in reaper?
>>
>> Another issue with reaper, which for all it's promise I always had
>> trouble
>> with the vst implementation, and plug-in scanning in general.
>>
>> Not as stable as we would like.
>>
>> But it's still early days for reaper.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 9:11 AM
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] autotuning in reaper?
>>
>>
>> I just pasted the GSnap dll into Reaper 64's VST destination folder;
>> which is Steinberg\VSTPlugins on this computer; , and; running NVDA; I
>> couldn't get Reaper 64 to even load GSnap.
>> I ran Reaper's Clear Cache Rescan several times; which is Reaper's  most
>> extreme method of forceing it to recognize a plug, no luck.
>> I couldn't find a 64 bit version of GSnap that's labeled as for 64 bit
>> Windows; unless maybe the plug is assumed to be for both 32 and 64 bits.
>> Online, I read forum posts from folks running GSnap in Reaper 64, so
>> don't understand why it won't load.
>> Thanks for any reports of your experience with it,
>> Indi
>>
>> On 5/21/2013 5:21 AM, Steve Spamer wrote:
>>> Regarding GSnap, Tim Burgess has an HSC file for it over at:
>>> http://www.raisedbar.net/articles.htm
>>> but not sure if it will be of any use, as most on here are NVDA users.
>>> Anyway, it may be handy, cheers
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> Visit:
>>> www.vipaudioaccess.com
>>> for audio access solutions, articles, demos, to showcase your music
>>> and to
>>> basically get involved!
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Indigo
>>> Sent: 20 May 2013 23:43
>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] autotuning in reaper?
>>>
>>> I used GSnap with Window-Eyes in 32 bits.
>>> I suppose bridge intends to somehow bridge something to 64 bit
>>> windows 7.
>>> What did you do when bridge came up?
>>> Would none of it talk?
>>> Did you try route to focus numPad insert and the numpad -minus key?
>>> Did you try numPad insert and the 7 key?
>>> Sorry, NVDA doesn't cover everything, unfortunately.
>>> What's accessible in Wineyes or Jaws may not be, and vice versa.
>>> Indi
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/20/2013 4:33 PM, Oriol Gómez wrote:
>>>> Hi Indi,
>>>> Thanks for your email.
>>>> You mean gSnap is accessible' I just tried it and it came up with
>>>> something called gSnap bridge, which was a window that NVDA did not
>>>> recognize at all.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 5/20/13, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Oriol,
>>>>> The VST pitch-correcting plugs  here work, and are free.
>>>>> They're simpler than Antares AutoTune, but make the same Cher Effect,
>>>>> which I also like very much.
>>>>> The top free plug on the list definitely is accessible, and I think
>>>>> the
>>>>> second on the list is also, but it's been a while since I tried it.
>>>>> Don't know if scripts are available, or needed; since they're very
>>> simple.
>>>>> They're freeware VST plugs, and do pitch correction when a track's
>>>>> output is fed through them, and I seem to remember that the pitch
>>>>> can be
>>>>> set from playing notes on a midi keyboard as well.
>>>>> Indi
>>>>>
>>> http://bedroomproducersblog.com/2011/07/25/bpb-freeware-studio-best-free-pit
>>>
>>>
>>> ch-correction-auto-tune-vstau-plugins/
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/20/2013 8:23 AM, Oriol Gómez wrote:
>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>> I'm looking to add some autotuning to one of my songs because I like
>>>>>> the metallic effect that it gives it. Is reaTune an option?
>>>>>> I don't know if it is accessible, I have tried loading the reaTune
>>>>>> plugin but it seems not to be completely accessible as I can't switch
>>>>>> from manual tuning to autotune with NVDA.
>>>>>> Does anyone have any hints? Is there a more accessible workaround?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> Oriol.
>>>>>>
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