[RWP] Extending reaper with Reascript Macros

Fri May 24 20:12:38 EDT 2013

Thanks for your kind tips.
I'll take a look at ReaConsole, don't know what it's for yet.
Indi
Indi

On 5/24/2013 7:09 PM, TheOreoMonster wrote:
> already been playing with SWS here. ITs a great tool, if only for reaconsole. Snapshots seem to be more mix snapshots and not  so  much automation snapshots from what i read. ITs basically like keeping multiple versions of the project in one project file instead of having to save multiple version of a mix and then open them all individually.
> thanks for the tip on the action list online.
> On May 24, 2013, at 4:25 PM, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, TheOreoMonster,
>> Sounds easy enough.
>> I know how to drag in Wineyes, which is what I use on my actual daw, so that's no problem.
>> I should learn how NVDA drags.
>>
>> By the way, you can get the action list online, which has some advantages, especially if you save a copy of it in your documents folder; just to spend time looking for useful actions.
>> Yes, you can also save a document copy of the actions list from Reaper itself, but it won't have all the SWS and Xenakios actions until you download them.
>>
>> Here's a link to the actions list online, and look at the SWS and Xenakios actions.
>> Those are already scriptts, which you can include among the native Reaper actions; so you're making a script calling scripts.
>> http://wiki.cockos.com/wiki/index.php/Action_List_Reference
>>
>> To get the SWS actions, go to:
>> http://www.standingwaterstudios.com
>> and sign up, download the installer; then install it, then you can download all those SWS actions into Reaper.
>> I notice that Snapshots are a big feature in the SWS and Xenakios actions, but don't know if they're used the same way Sonar uses Snapshots.
>> I also notice that one of the SWS actions is to run the action marker currently under the cursor.
>> There also are actions to wait until the end of the current loop that is playing; or the current measure that's playing, to run an action.
>> You have a bunch of auto actions to imbed into the music tracks.
>> Thanks,
>> Indi
>>
>> On 5/24/2013 12:12 PM, Monkey Pusher wrote:
>>> in the actions list dialogue box just pass where you can assign a
>>> short cut to an action in the action list is Custom Action. click on
>>> the new button  just past the  words custom action.. It will  bring up
>>> a new dialog. there is a filter edit box you can use to search for
>>> action, An edit box to name your custom actions, and tehn two tables
>>> of list like the action list dialog has. The first one is where u
>>> select the actions  yo want. You drag them into the second dialogue
>>> box in the order you want to chaing them in. Once done You save it.
>>> check the show in actions list check mark if u want to be able to find
>>> it in the normal action list. and click ok. Back in the normal action
>>> list, you can find it and assign a short cut key to it like would any
>>> other action.
>>>
>>> On 5/24/13, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>>>> I've assigned shortcuts to single actions, but don't know how to chain
>>>> actions together yet, just haven't got round to trying it.
>>>> Many things are simpler than we think when we finally try them.
>>>> Thanks for your tip,
>>>> Indi
>>>>
>>>> On 5/24/2013 7:41 AM, TheOreoMonster wrote:
>>>>> for most macro style things you may not even need to write a script. You
>>>>> can make custom actions by chaining together a number of different actions
>>>>> and assigning them shortcut key
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 19, 2013, at 12:25 PM, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeh, I intend to write the script I need, to start a recording, then wait
>>>>>> a certain number of seconds before executing the next action, then stop
>>>>>> recording at the end of measure.
>>>>>> I don't like having to time it in seconds to get a 2 or 4 measure
>>>>>> recorded loop; since that will break when I change tempo sufficiently.
>>>>>> I thought I found something in the ReaScript help about recording 2
>>>>>> beats;.
>>>>>> If I can find that action again; I could string enough of those together
>>>>>> to make 2 or 4 measures.
>>>>>> I don't comprehend why there isn't an action for record 1 measure, or why
>>>>>> the length of recording in preferences doesn't change to measures and
>>>>>> beats when I change the project settings to measures/beats.
>>>>>> When you learn that reaper itself is made of thousands of these scripts,
>>>>>> you understand why it is amazingly malliable, also why there are huge
>>>>>> gaps in its features that need filling.
>>>>>> It's for sure not perfect, but it is changeable; ; given enough time and
>>>>>> energy.
>>>>>> When we learn enough, I'll bet we can counter any breakages that might
>>>>>> occur with future versions as they might occur.
>>>>>> That help file you get with alt+h, then arrow down to HTML Files Auto
>>>>>> Generated, then arrow right to 3 lists, mouse modifiers, ReaScript and
>>>>>> actions is nothing short of mind dazzling.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can just feel the huge power for us in the mouse modifiers.
>>>>>> We'll run the mouse with its power with a shortcut.
>>>>>> I had that way back in Atari ST days, when I used a simple macro recorder
>>>>>> to record the mouse moves and clicks my sighted wife did, then edited out
>>>>>> the extra time; leaving only enough time for the computer to carry out
>>>>>> the actions.
>>>>>> Mouse moves went fast as light.
>>>>>> No sighted user could move the mouse that fast.
>>>>>> Oh, Jim, I discovered the right click context menu with the actions list;
>>>>>> which also has a selection to copy the ID's to clipboard.
>>>>>> Once you click on Show ID's, they remain displayed anywhere you go in the
>>>>>> actions list.
>>>>>> Here's a page from the forums, explaining the difference between scripts,
>>>>>> macros, actions and Auto Hot Key scripts to Reaper.
>>>>>> This tells me that we're better off working with native actions and
>>>>>> scripts that don't get broken easily, as AHK scripts can:
>>>>>> Snip:
>>>>>> Cockos Confederated Forums > REAPER Forums > JS and ReaScript Discussion
>>>>>> Reaper/custom/extension action command IDs and strings
>>>>>> 12-02-2009, 06:51 AM
>>>>>>    #1
>>>>>> schwa
>>>>>> Administrator
>>>>>> : 7,276
>>>>>> Default Reaper/custom/extension action command IDs and strings
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This will be of interest only to extension developers, ReaScript authors,
>>>>>> and AutoHotKey users.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For context:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Reaper native actions are the set of actions that appear in the action
>>>>>> dialog (press the ? key) for all users.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Reaper custom actions are action lists (essentially macros) that are
>>>>>> created by users, and appear at the top of the action list as "Custom:
>>>>>> actionname".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ReaScript allows users to create scripts in Python that do many of the
>>>>>> same things that extensions can do. ReaScripts can be loaded as actions
>>>>>> and appear in the action dialog as "Custom: scriptname".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Reaper extensions are compiled add-ins created by developers (such as the
>>>>>> redoubtable SWS and Xenakios) to add functionality to Reaper. Regular
>>>>>> users download and install the extensions, and the extended functions
>>>>>> then appear in the action dialog as (for example) "SWS: actionname".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AutoHotKey is a 3rd-party application, nothing to do with Reaper, that
>>>>>> can be used to create macros that send commands directly to windows on
>>>>>> your screen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Every native, custom, and extension action in Reaper has a command ID.
>>>>>> This is a unique number that identifies the action. ReaScript users can
>>>>>> invoke any action via functions like RPR_Main_OnCommand and
>>>>>> RPR_MIDIEditor_OnCommand. SWS extension users can use the command IDs in
>>>>>> SWS marker actions. AHK users can invoke any action by sending the
>>>>>> command ID to the Reaper window.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No other users will ever care about command IDs. If you don't fit any of
>>>>>> the descriptions in the previous paragraph (or if you don't understand
>>>>>> any of this) then you don't need to worry about it and can happily go
>>>>>> back to recording whatever awesome music you were just about to record.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can see command IDs for each action by scrolling to the right in the
>>>>>> action dialog. Only Reaper native actions have command ID numbers that
>>>>>> never change. These are the only command ID numbers that are completely
>>>>>> safe to use in any of these contexts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Custom, ReaScript, and extension actions are assigned command ID numbers
>>>>>> when Reaper starts up. This is because Reaper doesn't know until it loads
>>>>>> how many non-native actions will be added. Therefore, these command ID
>>>>>> numbers can change from run to run. For example if you add or delete a
>>>>>> custom action, ReaScript, or extension dll, or if the extension itself is
>>>>>> updated, then any or all of the non-native command ID numbers can change.
>>>>>> The ID numbers themselves can't be relied on unless the set of non-native
>>>>>> commands never changes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Non-native actions are stored with a command ID string that Reaper uses
>>>>>> at load time to assign unique command ID numbers. The command ID string
>>>>>> never changes and can be relied on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ReaScript authors should use RPR_NamedCommandLookup to convert non-native
>>>>>> command ID strings to numbers within the script. Otherwise, the script
>>>>>> isn't guaranteed to always work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately AHK users don't have a choice, AHK doesn't have anything to
>>>>>> do with Reaper so it doesn't have any way to look up command ID numbers.
>>>>>> Whenever non-native actions change, AHK scripts that use non-native
>>>>>> actions may break and will need to be updated.
>>>>>> End Snip.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/18/2013 10:43 PM, Jim Snowbarger wrote:
>>>>>>> I think the first step on this is to install Python on your machine,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> learn to write the simplest possible Python script.  That's about where
>>>>>>> I am right now.  Your python scripts can be as complicated as you can
>>>>>>> imagine, but they dont' have to be.  You won't need to be a Python
>>>>>>> expert to string actions together.  It looks like that will be quite
>>>>>>> simple.  About how to tell Reaper what hot key to connect to the
>>>>>>> script,  Haven't gotten there yet.  But, this link Indigo provided is
>>>>>>> pretty instructive.  So, it's all there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> time,  all it takes is time.  Anybody got enough of it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nadine Jahns"
>>>>>>> <beats4thenation at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 2:49 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Extending reaper with Reascript Macros
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cool! I really have to try this out next week, when I'm back home!
>>>>>>>> Yesterday i looked shortly in the reascript documentation and totally
>>>>>>>> got lost :)!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 17.05.2013 um 04:43 schrieb "Jim Snowbarger"
>>>>>>>> <Snowman at SnowmanRadio.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, there you go.  Once you can bind a script to a hot key, your
>>>>>>>>> home free.  All  you need to do to string actions together is to have
>>>>>>>>> multiple lines, each containing this api call, with the appropriate
>>>>>>>>> action number.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's worth mentioning, in case anybody else other than me doesn't
>>>>>>>>> already know, to get the action numbers to show, you don't have to
>>>>>>>>> scroll right, as described.  Just right click on the action, down
>>>>>>>>> arrow to show action ID'S, and press enter.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Time to learn to write a simple REAScript, and bind it to a hot key.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>>>>>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 12:06 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [RWP] Extending reaper with Reascript Macros
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Python programming language and ReaScript, which uses Python, can
>>>>>>>>>> get complex, but I understand this to say that I can call any action
>>>>>>>>>> with this API script; and; I'm assuming that I can list more than 1
>>>>>>>>>> action, though this isn't stated here.
>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to buy the e-book: Reaper 4 Unleashed; about $10 USD,
>>>>>>>>>> which claims to get you going with custom actions, keymaps,
>>>>>>>>>> etcetera.
>>>>>>>>>> I'm already finding already written custom actions in Reaper's
>>>>>>>>>> resources link, also in the Cockos forums.
>>>>>>>>>> Here's the quote from the Wiki on ReaScript:
>>>>>>>>>> Snip:
>>>>>>>>>> top  Calling REAPER Actions
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You can call any REAPER action from ReaScript by using the API
>>>>>>>>>> function
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> RPR_Main_OnCommand(actionnumber, 0)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Find the action number for a given action by opening the Actions
>>>>>>>>>> list, and scrolling the window right to reveal an extra column. For
>>>>>>>>>> example, from ReaScript you would call the REAPER action "Item:
>>>>>>>>>> Split item under mouse cursor" like this:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> RPR_Main_OnCommand(40746, 0)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you use ReaScript as an advanced macro language, this is the only
>>>>>>>>>> API function you need to know.
>>>>>>>>>> End Snip.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.reaper.fm/sdk/reascript/reascript.php
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