[RWP] Automation

Wed May 22 22:58:23 EDT 2013

Indigo, thanks for the snip.
I tried translating this into non-mousey language, but so far couldn't make 
it work.
Here is what I tried.
In the track menu, envelopes, toggle volume active is checked.

Return to the track view, on the selected trac, and use the tab key to find 
record automation, and set it to write, pressed enter and return to track 
view.

Pressed tab again, and located volume, set it to 0DB and pressed enter.
Started playback, pressed tab while playing, and mucked with volume to 
create obvious changes.  Press enter.
Stop playback.
Tab key to find automation,  it had changed to Trim off.
I was surprised about that.  Changed it to read, and pressed enter.
playback showed no volume changes.
No automation was recorded.
Must be that my mousey back translator failed.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 5:33 AM
Subject: Re: [RWP] Routing Tracks to master track

Automation and drawing envelopes is very similar in Reaper.
In the Track menu you have the option; Set Automation Mode.
Arrow right on that and you get the modes, write, read, latch and trim.
You can also set the track's automation mode per track by tabbing to
automation mode in track view, and arrowing to the desired mode.
When setting automation mode with the tab key and arrows, click enter to
save settings.
In track menu arrow down a couple more spaces and you get the option;
Envelope submenu.
Arrow right on that and you get the various parameters to activate for
writing automation, like volume, pan, etcetera.

In actions you also have a load of mouse modifier options for editing
the envelope shape and points, available to us by assigning shortcuts to
them to carry out the mouse movements.
Here's the Cockos Wiki on Automation:
Snip:
Automation
Main Page > REAPER Documentation, going further
Contents [
1 What is Automation?
2 Creating Automation
3 Managing Envelopes
4 Writing Automation
5 Automation Write Example
6 Automation and Envelope Defaults
What is Automation?
Automation is one of the most useful features of REAPER.
It enables you to ensure that when your project is played back, changes
in such things as volume level or panning for different tracks can be
remembered and played back in real time, with the project. At its
simplest, for example, you can use automation to lift the volume of a
lead instrument during a particular break or passage, or to add a little
presence or warmth to the odd phrase here or there on a vocal track, to
make it stand out in the mix a touch more. As you will see in this
section, that’s only the beginning. When used well, Automation delivers
the power to produce exactly the mix that you want.
Creating Automation
REAPER makes available to you two methods of automating your projects.
Both have their own advantages. Try them both – you can use either
method in your projects or a combination of both, as you prefer.
?Writing Automation: When writing automation, you are able to instruct
REAPER to remember your actions – such as fading the volume control up
and down for any track or tracks – as your project is played. These
actions are used to create an envelope which is then reproduced when you
play back or mix down the track in the future (see example, right).
?Drawn Envelopes: As an alternative to using your faders to create
envelopes, you can shape them manually. This give you a very fine degree
of control over your project. You can manually draw in envelopes which
will have the same effect as if actual fader movements had been recorded.
With both recorded and envelope automation, it is perfectly possible
(and quite easy) to edit the automation instructions afterwards, or to
remove them altogether if that’s what you want.
Managing Envelopes
Any track’s envelopes are managed by displaying the Envelopes Window for
that track. This is displayed by clicking on the track’s Envelope
button. You use this window, for example to:
?Set the Automation Status for the track.
?Create an envelope (eg for Volume or Pan).
?To show or hide an envelope from view.
?To Arm an envelope or Disarm it.
These issues will be explained and explored in the pages that follow.
Writing Automation
To create automation envelopes using the Write feature, use this method:
?In the Track Control Panel, click on the Envelopes button to display
the list of parameters that can be automated.
?Select the item you wish to automate, and make sure to also select the
options Visible and Arm.
?Set Automation mode to Write.
?Close the Envelopes window.
?Position the Edit Cursor where you wish to start.
?Play the song. As you do so, adjust the on screen control which
controls the parameter that you are automating.
?Stop play when finished.
?Right click over the Envelope button for that track and select
Automation Read.
?Play the song. Listen and look!
Automation Write Example
?Open your file "All Through the Night.RPP" (This is an example file
available on the Wiki Main Page). Save it as "All Through the Night
AUTO.RPP". We are going to add an automation envelope to the Bouzouki
track to fade this track up a little in the passage between the first
and second verses of this song.
?Use your mouse to increase the height of the Bouzouki track. This isn’t
absolutely necessary, but makes it easier to see what you are doing.
?Position the Edit Cursor just before the end of the first vocal passage
(see above).
?Now click on the Envelopes button for the Bouzouki Track. Select Volume
and make it both Visible and Armed. Select the automation mode Write for
this track.
?Close the Envelopes window. Notice that the Volume fader for this track
is now coloured red. The Envelope button displays a red dot.
?Play the song.
?As the instrumental passage starts, use your mouse to raise the fader
for the Bouzouki Volume by about a decibel. Hold it there, then at the
end of the instrumental break lower the fader to its original position.
Stop play.
?Right click over the Envelope button for the Bouzouki track and choose
Automation Mode: Read from the context menu.
?The fader for the Volume control from this track will now be green, and
your automation envelope should be clearly visible (see right).
?Play the song. The volume fader for your bouzouki will automatically
move up and then down in accordance with the movements that you recorded.
?Press Ctrl S to save this file.
Automation and Envelope Defaults
Before exploring any more of REAPER’s automation features, it’s worth
taking note of where your default Automation settings are stored. They
are in the Preferences window, on the Project Defaults page.
Here you can specify in particular:
?The default automation mode for new tracks,
?Whether or not envelopes are automatically armed as they are added.
Envelope defaults are stored on the Editing Behaviour, Mouse page.
Here you can specify how the mouse is to behave when you click on an
envelope. The two options are:
?Adds a point,
?Adjusts segment.
By default, click is set to add a point, Shift click is set to adjust
segment.
End Snip.

On 5/21/2013 10:10 PM, Jim Snowbarger wrote:
> That's the nice thing about recording automation in Sonar, isn't it.
> you can basically draw your own envelopes with your fader control on
> your control surface.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Belle" <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 6:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [RWP] Routing Tracks to master track
>
>
>> So your essentially splitting out bits of audio and then doing volume
>> gain on them?
>>
>> Well, I guess that'd work for small volume changes, but splitting out
>> a clop or item in reaper land and doing a big change would probably
>> cause problems with audible pops and such.
>>
>> We really do need a better way to do automation with reaper.
>>
>> That and midi editing is kind of what's kept me from going all the way
>> with reaper.
>>
>> But there are things to love about this little swiss army knive.
>>
>> And ofcourse sighted people can draw envelopes and all that with sonar
>> or reaper, it doesn't matter for them.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Chesworth"
>> <scottchesworth at gmail.com>
>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 4:59 AM
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Routing Tracks to master track
>>
>>
>>> Hey Chris,
>>>
>>> Using the latest version here. At one point I had a reason for that,
>>> but tbh it's been so long that I can't think what it was. Maybe next
>>> time I get a few days off I'll roll back to 3.78 and see what's
>>> missing. For now, I'm using item gain for volume and muting
>>> automation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/20/13, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>> Hey, that's great.
>>>>
>>>> Are you using 378 or a later version?
>>>>
>>>> And what about working around things like automation?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Scott Chesworth" <scottchesworth at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 4:09 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Routing Tracks to master track
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Tracking and/or mixing pretty much every day in Reaper now, for and
>>>>> with humans who are paying actual money.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just sayin'...
>>>>>
>>>>> Scott
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/20/13, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Patrick like you though I use reaper for just a few little things,
>>>>>> I've
>>>>>> chosen to stay with the 3.78 version for the better fit with the
>>>>>> static
>>>>>> access development, because nothing messes with work flow as much
>>>>>> as not
>>>>>> being able to do basic i/o stuff efficiently.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I always went for the latest versions before but I'm finding I can
>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>
>>>>>> do stuff now with reaper and it actually does what I told it to do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What good is a newer version if you can't get to things, or it breaks
>>>>>> things
>>>>>>
>>>>>> that you had, and this is the worst kind of senario for new users,
>>>>>> even
>>>>>> old
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hats visiting a new set of tools.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I easily created a loop, tuned it and made it the speed I wanted, and
>>>>>> exported it, and whala,
>>>>>> no extra space in the loop, no why the hell didn't that work, with
>>>>>> 3.78
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> just works and everything talks right.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course when I get in to more advanced functions, i might take my
>>>>>> statement back, but for now I think I'll stay where your at.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since you do lots of post production and have to do essential
>>>>>> repetitive
>>>>>> tasks real world
>>>>>> audio chores
>>>>>> I value your experience and I think your the only one maybe
>>>>>> besides Roy
>>>>>> who I personally know who's actually doing work with reaper.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not to take away from the explorations others are doing and talking
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> but if there's a compelling reason to work with later versions and
>>>>>> put
>>>>>> up
>>>>>> with the broken access, I haven't heard it yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe the better midi editing?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Patrick Perdue" <patrick at pdaudio.net>
>>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 9:25 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Routing Tracks to master track
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Everything should already be routed to master, unless you
>>>>>>> specifically
>>>>>>> unrouted them all individually, or if your tracks are in a folder
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> isn't sending to the master send itself. That's how the default new
>>>>>>> project template works. All newly created tracks are automatically
>>>>>>> routed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to master. If you press shift+f5 (mute master track) and all your
>>>>>>> audio
>>>>>>> goes away, then you'll know all your tracks are, in fact, sending to
>>>>>>> master. You can also use shift+j or shift+k to read the peak
>>>>>>> meter of
>>>>>>> left/right, respectively, of master track's output in real time.
>>>>>>> Assuming
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you are using Reaper 3.78, where you can still fully access all the
>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> context menus for routing, unlike 4.x versions, pressing
>>>>>>> shift+context
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> any highlighted track (it's a bit different for folders,) and one of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> options is "master track." Check or uncheck that box to
>>>>>>> route/unroute
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> selected track from master here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/19/2013 9:08 PM,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alexander Westphal wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hello all!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a compressor on the master track, but how do I now route
>>>>>>>> all my
>>>>>>>> tracks to the master?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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