[RWP] Routing Tracks to master track

Wed May 22 03:40:48 EDT 2013

Oh sure, if you mean it like that ok.

One can always step back to the original wav.

Or make copies of the project file.

I guess I was making the distinction between control information to play 
back the wav file currently loaded as apposed to actually operating on that 
wav file.

Not really a lot of difference in practical terms.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick Perdue" <patrick at pdaudio.net>
To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 1:28 AM
Subject: Re: [RWP] Routing Tracks to master track

> Nope, it's totally non-destructive editing. You're not rendering things 
> offline and changing the original wave, just a copy in a project that 
> tells it what to do on playback. It can easily be undone well after the 
> fact, even if you can't get that far back in your undo history. Most of 
> what I do is non-destructive in that way.
>
> On 5/22/2013 2:01 AM, Chris Belle wrote:
>> Yup, I don't have a surface yet because of all the nightmares associated
>> with them, but I can do the same thing with a learned fader from my
>> keyboards, and or doing lots of snapshots quicly very close together
>> produces the same thing.
>>
>> If reaper had anything like this
>> I think that'd be enough to make me switch religions.
>>
>> But I must investigate the crazy way Patrick does mixing by breaking up
>> wav forms and sliding them together and doing volume changes on the
>> actual wav form.
>>
>> Danger there is you might clip, and it's also destructive editing.
>>
>> If I screw up in sonar, just wipe the slate and start over with 
>> automation.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Snowbarger"
>> <Snowman at SnowmanRadio.com>
>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 9:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Routing Tracks to master track
>>
>>
>>> That's the nice thing about recording automation in Sonar, isn't it.
>>> you can basically draw your own envelopes with your fader control on
>>> your control surface.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Belle" <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 6:14 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Routing Tracks to master track
>>>
>>>
>>>> So your essentially splitting out bits of audio and then doing volume
>>>> gain on them?
>>>>
>>>> Well, I guess that'd work for small volume changes, but splitting out
>>>> a clop or item in reaper land and doing a big change would probably
>>>> cause problems with audible pops and such.
>>>>
>>>> We really do need a better way to do automation with reaper.
>>>>
>>>> That and midi editing is kind of what's kept me from going all the
>>>> way with reaper.
>>>>
>>>> But there are things to love about this little swiss army knive.
>>>>
>>>> And ofcourse sighted people can draw envelopes and all that with
>>>> sonar or reaper, it doesn't matter for them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Chesworth"
>>>> <scottchesworth at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 4:59 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Routing Tracks to master track
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hey Chris,
>>>>>
>>>>> Using the latest version here. At one point I had a reason for that,
>>>>> but tbh it's been so long that I can't think what it was. Maybe next
>>>>> time I get a few days off I'll roll back to 3.78 and see what's
>>>>> missing. For now, I'm using item gain for volume and muting
>>>>> automation.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/20/13, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Hey, that's great.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you using 378 or a later version?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And what about working around things like automation?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Scott Chesworth" <scottchesworth at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 4:09 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Routing Tracks to master track
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tracking and/or mixing pretty much every day in Reaper now, for and
>>>>>>> with humans who are paying actual money.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just sayin'...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/20/13, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Patrick like you though I use reaper for just a few little
>>>>>>>> things, I've
>>>>>>>> chosen to stay with the 3.78 version for the better fit with the
>>>>>>>> static
>>>>>>>> access development, because nothing messes with work flow as much
>>>>>>>> as not
>>>>>>>> being able to do basic i/o stuff efficiently.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I always went for the latest versions before but I'm finding I can
>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> do stuff now with reaper and it actually does what I told it to do.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What good is a newer version if you can't get to things, or it
>>>>>>>> breaks
>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> that you had, and this is the worst kind of senario for new
>>>>>>>> users, even
>>>>>>>> old
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hats visiting a new set of tools.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I easily created a loop, tuned it and made it the speed I wanted,
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> exported it, and whala,
>>>>>>>> no extra space in the loop, no why the hell didn't that work,
>>>>>>>> with 3.78
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> just works and everything talks right.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Of course when I get in to more advanced functions, i might take my
>>>>>>>> statement back, but for now I think I'll stay where your at.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Since you do lots of post production and have to do essential
>>>>>>>> repetitive
>>>>>>>> tasks real world
>>>>>>>> audio chores
>>>>>>>> I value your experience and I think your the only one maybe
>>>>>>>> besides Roy
>>>>>>>> who I personally know who's actually doing work with reaper.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not to take away from the explorations others are doing and talking
>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>> but if there's a compelling reason to work with later versions
>>>>>>>> and put
>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>> with the broken access, I haven't heard it yet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe the better midi editing?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Patrick Perdue" <patrick at pdaudio.net>
>>>>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 9:25 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Routing Tracks to master track
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Everything should already be routed to master, unless you
>>>>>>>>> specifically
>>>>>>>>> unrouted them all individually, or if your tracks are in a
>>>>>>>>> folder that
>>>>>>>>> isn't sending to the master send itself. That's how the default 
>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>> project template works. All newly created tracks are automatically
>>>>>>>>> routed
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> to master. If you press shift+f5 (mute master track) and all
>>>>>>>>> your audio
>>>>>>>>> goes away, then you'll know all your tracks are, in fact,
>>>>>>>>> sending to
>>>>>>>>> master. You can also use shift+j or shift+k to read the peak
>>>>>>>>> meter of
>>>>>>>>> left/right, respectively, of master track's output in real time.
>>>>>>>>> Assuming
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> you are using Reaper 3.78, where you can still fully access all 
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> context menus for routing, unlike 4.x versions, pressing
>>>>>>>>> shift+context
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> any highlighted track (it's a bit different for folders,) and
>>>>>>>>> one of
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> options is "master track." Check or uncheck that box to
>>>>>>>>> route/unroute
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> selected track from master here.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 5/19/2013 9:08 PM,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Alexander Westphal wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hello all!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have a compressor on the master track, but how do I now route
>>>>>>>>>> all my
>>>>>>>>>> tracks to the master?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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