[RWP] Routing Tracks to master track

Patrick Perdue patrick at pdaudio.net
Wed May 22 02:28:14 EDT 2013


Nope, it's totally non-destructive editing. You're not rendering things 
offline and changing the original wave, just a copy in a project that 
tells it what to do on playback. It can easily be undone well after the 
fact, even if you can't get that far back in your undo history. Most of 
what I do is non-destructive in that way.

On 5/22/2013 2:01 AM, Chris Belle wrote:
> Yup, I don't have a surface yet because of all the nightmares associated
> with them, but I can do the same thing with a learned fader from my
> keyboards, and or doing lots of snapshots quicly very close together
> produces the same thing.
>
> If reaper had anything like this
> I think that'd be enough to make me switch religions.
>
> But I must investigate the crazy way Patrick does mixing by breaking up
> wav forms and sliding them together and doing volume changes on the
> actual wav form.
>
> Danger there is you might clip, and it's also destructive editing.
>
> If I screw up in sonar, just wipe the slate and start over with automation.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Snowbarger"
> <Snowman at SnowmanRadio.com>
> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 9:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [RWP] Routing Tracks to master track
>
>
>> That's the nice thing about recording automation in Sonar, isn't it.
>> you can basically draw your own envelopes with your fader control on
>> your control surface.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Belle" <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 6:14 AM
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Routing Tracks to master track
>>
>>
>>> So your essentially splitting out bits of audio and then doing volume
>>> gain on them?
>>>
>>> Well, I guess that'd work for small volume changes, but splitting out
>>> a clop or item in reaper land and doing a big change would probably
>>> cause problems with audible pops and such.
>>>
>>> We really do need a better way to do automation with reaper.
>>>
>>> That and midi editing is kind of what's kept me from going all the
>>> way with reaper.
>>>
>>> But there are things to love about this little swiss army knive.
>>>
>>> And ofcourse sighted people can draw envelopes and all that with
>>> sonar or reaper, it doesn't matter for them.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Chesworth"
>>> <scottchesworth at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 4:59 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Routing Tracks to master track
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hey Chris,
>>>>
>>>> Using the latest version here. At one point I had a reason for that,
>>>> but tbh it's been so long that I can't think what it was. Maybe next
>>>> time I get a few days off I'll roll back to 3.78 and see what's
>>>> missing. For now, I'm using item gain for volume and muting
>>>> automation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 5/20/13, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>> Hey, that's great.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you using 378 or a later version?
>>>>>
>>>>> And what about working around things like automation?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Scott Chesworth" <scottchesworth at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 4:09 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Routing Tracks to master track
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Tracking and/or mixing pretty much every day in Reaper now, for and
>>>>>> with humans who are paying actual money.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just sayin'...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/20/13, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Patrick like you though I use reaper for just a few little
>>>>>>> things, I've
>>>>>>> chosen to stay with the 3.78 version for the better fit with the
>>>>>>> static
>>>>>>> access development, because nothing messes with work flow as much
>>>>>>> as not
>>>>>>> being able to do basic i/o stuff efficiently.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I always went for the latest versions before but I'm finding I can
>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> do stuff now with reaper and it actually does what I told it to do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What good is a newer version if you can't get to things, or it
>>>>>>> breaks
>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> that you had, and this is the worst kind of senario for new
>>>>>>> users, even
>>>>>>> old
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hats visiting a new set of tools.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I easily created a loop, tuned it and made it the speed I wanted,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> exported it, and whala,
>>>>>>> no extra space in the loop, no why the hell didn't that work,
>>>>>>> with 3.78
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> just works and everything talks right.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course when I get in to more advanced functions, i might take my
>>>>>>> statement back, but for now I think I'll stay where your at.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since you do lots of post production and have to do essential
>>>>>>> repetitive
>>>>>>> tasks real world
>>>>>>> audio chores
>>>>>>> I value your experience and I think your the only one maybe
>>>>>>> besides Roy
>>>>>>> who I personally know who's actually doing work with reaper.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not to take away from the explorations others are doing and talking
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> but if there's a compelling reason to work with later versions
>>>>>>> and put
>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>> with the broken access, I haven't heard it yet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe the better midi editing?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Patrick Perdue" <patrick at pdaudio.net>
>>>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 9:25 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Routing Tracks to master track
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Everything should already be routed to master, unless you
>>>>>>>> specifically
>>>>>>>> unrouted them all individually, or if your tracks are in a
>>>>>>>> folder that
>>>>>>>> isn't sending to the master send itself. That's how the default new
>>>>>>>> project template works. All newly created tracks are automatically
>>>>>>>> routed
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to master. If you press shift+f5 (mute master track) and all
>>>>>>>> your audio
>>>>>>>> goes away, then you'll know all your tracks are, in fact,
>>>>>>>> sending to
>>>>>>>> master. You can also use shift+j or shift+k to read the peak
>>>>>>>> meter of
>>>>>>>> left/right, respectively, of master track's output in real time.
>>>>>>>> Assuming
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> you are using Reaper 3.78, where you can still fully access all the
>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> context menus for routing, unlike 4.x versions, pressing
>>>>>>>> shift+context
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> any highlighted track (it's a bit different for folders,) and
>>>>>>>> one of
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> options is "master track." Check or uncheck that box to
>>>>>>>> route/unroute
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> selected track from master here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/19/2013 9:08 PM,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alexander Westphal wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hello all!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have a compressor on the master track, but how do I now route
>>>>>>>>> all my
>>>>>>>>> tracks to the master?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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