[RWP] Routing Tracks to master track

Wed May 22 00:13:47 EDT 2013

heal splits blasially does the opposite of what the split command does. .. It *Heals the split* or glues the two items back tother to now be one item again.
On May 21, 2013, at 8:08 PM, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:

> Patrick, is that the same as Heal Splits; which does the automatic crossfade to give the least possible noise at the healed split points?
> I haven't used it, just read about it in the article on quantizing audio in Reaper.
> Actually, there's a user-written custom action called Beat Detective that auto-assigns beat and measure grid to audio tracks, same name and function as Beat Detective in Cubase, also same as old Propeller Heads Recycle; and Sony Acid Pro also does it.
> After you have those beat and measure lines assigned by detecting transcients, like the kick drum, quantizing audio and editing gets possible.
> Indi
> 
> 
> On 5/21/2013 5:47 PM, Patrick Perdue wrote:
>> It sounds a lot more painful than it actually is. One of those things
>> that takes longer to explain by at least a factor of five than actually
>> doing it. Having ever used Sonar for automation, I can't know how much
>> better it is, which is probably not a bad thing in my particular
>> situation. Then again, doing what I'm doing now in Sonar... possible, I
>> guess, but the idea scares me.
>> 
>> On 5/21/2013 5:36 PM, Chris Belle wrote:
>>> Sounds convoluted to me, I'm so spoiled by sonar's easy automation, but
>>> I'll have to experiment with that.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Perdue" <patrick at pdaudio.net>
>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 10:57 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Routing Tracks to master track
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> If you split an item and change it's volume, then overlap it with an
>>>> existing item with the same actual content by extending the left edge
>>>> of your new item so that it's on top of the old one in just the right
>>>> way, it's a very smooth crossfade, no clicky poppy badness. Since
>>>> you're dealing with the same audio, you're crossfade turns into a
>>>> relatively linear gain change when needed. I've done it plenty of
>>>> times. It's not pretty, but it is effective. I've also recorded
>>>> automation with a control surface, which works as long as you don't
>>>> want to actually edit stuff after the fact, other than undo, assuming
>>>> you're still at the point where you can get away with that.
>>>> 
>>>> On 5/21/2013 7:14 AM, Chris Belle wrote:
>>>>> So your essentially splitting out bits of audio and then doing volume
>>>>> gain on them?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well, I guess that'd work for small volume changes, but splitting out a
>>>>> clop or item in reaper land and doing a big change would probably cause
>>>>> problems with audible pops and such.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We really do need a better way to do automation with reaper.
>>>>> 
>>>>> That and midi editing is kind of what's kept me from going all the way
>>>>> with reaper.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But there are things to love about this little swiss army knive.
>>>>> 
>>>>> And ofcourse sighted people can draw envelopes and all that with sonar
>>>>> or reaper, it doesn't matter for them.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Chesworth"
>>>>> <scottchesworth at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 4:59 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Routing Tracks to master track
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hey Chris,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Using the latest version here. At one point I had a reason for that,
>>>>>> but tbh it's been so long that I can't think what it was. Maybe next
>>>>>> time I get a few days off I'll roll back to 3.78 and see what's
>>>>>> missing. For now, I'm using item gain for volume and muting
>>>>>> automation.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 5/20/13, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hey, that's great.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Are you using 378 or a later version?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And what about working around things like automation?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Scott Chesworth" <scottchesworth at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 4:09 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Routing Tracks to master track
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Tracking and/or mixing pretty much every day in Reaper now, for and
>>>>>>>> with humans who are paying actual money.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Just sayin'...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 5/20/13, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Patrick like you though I use reaper for just a few little things,
>>>>>>>>> I've
>>>>>>>>> chosen to stay with the 3.78 version for the better fit with the
>>>>>>>>> static
>>>>>>>>> access development, because nothing messes with work flow as much
>>>>>>>>> as not
>>>>>>>>> being able to do basic i/o stuff efficiently.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I always went for the latest versions before but I'm finding I can
>>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> do stuff now with reaper and it actually does what I told it to do.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> What good is a newer version if you can't get to things, or it
>>>>>>>>> breaks
>>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> that you had, and this is the worst kind of senario for new users,
>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>> old
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> hats visiting a new set of tools.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I easily created a loop, tuned it and made it the speed I wanted,
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> exported it, and whala,
>>>>>>>>> no extra space in the loop, no why the hell didn't that work, with
>>>>>>>>> 3.78
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> just works and everything talks right.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Of course when I get in to more advanced functions, i might take my
>>>>>>>>> statement back, but for now I think I'll stay where your at.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Since you do lots of post production and have to do essential
>>>>>>>>> repetitive
>>>>>>>>> tasks real world
>>>>>>>>> audio chores
>>>>>>>>> I value your experience and I think your the only one maybe besides
>>>>>>>>> Roy
>>>>>>>>> who I personally know who's actually doing work with reaper.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Not to take away from the explorations others are doing and talking
>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>> but if there's a compelling reason to work with later versions
>>>>>>>>> and put
>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>> with the broken access, I haven't heard it yet.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Maybe the better midi editing?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Patrick Perdue" <patrick at pdaudio.net>
>>>>>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 9:25 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Routing Tracks to master track
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Everything should already be routed to master, unless you
>>>>>>>>>> specifically
>>>>>>>>>> unrouted them all individually, or if your tracks are in a folder
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> isn't sending to the master send itself. That's how the default
>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>> project template works. All newly created tracks are automatically
>>>>>>>>>> routed
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> to master. If you press shift+f5 (mute master track) and all your
>>>>>>>>>> audio
>>>>>>>>>> goes away, then you'll know all your tracks are, in fact,
>>>>>>>>>> sending to
>>>>>>>>>> master. You can also use shift+j or shift+k to read the peak
>>>>>>>>>> meter of
>>>>>>>>>> left/right, respectively, of master track's output in real time.
>>>>>>>>>> Assuming
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> you are using Reaper 3.78, where you can still fully access all
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> context menus for routing, unlike 4.x versions, pressing
>>>>>>>>>> shift+context
>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> any highlighted track (it's a bit different for folders,) and
>>>>>>>>>> one of
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> options is "master track." Check or uncheck that box to
>>>>>>>>>> route/unroute
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> selected track from master here.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/19/2013 9:08 PM,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Alexander Westphal wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello all!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I have a compressor on the master track, but how do I now route
>>>>>>>>>>> all my
>>>>>>>>>>> tracks to the master?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
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