[RWP] Routing Tracks to master track

Tue May 21 17:47:01 EDT 2013

It sounds a lot more painful than it actually is. One of those things 
that takes longer to explain by at least a factor of five than actually 
doing it. Having ever used Sonar for automation, I can't know how much 
better it is, which is probably not a bad thing in my particular 
situation. Then again, doing what I'm doing now in Sonar... possible, I 
guess, but the idea scares me.

On 5/21/2013 5:36 PM, Chris Belle wrote:
> Sounds convoluted to me, I'm so spoiled by sonar's easy automation, but
> I'll have to experiment with that.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Perdue" <patrick at pdaudio.net>
> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 10:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [RWP] Routing Tracks to master track
>
>
>> If you split an item and change it's volume, then overlap it with an
>> existing item with the same actual content by extending the left edge
>> of your new item so that it's on top of the old one in just the right
>> way, it's a very smooth crossfade, no clicky poppy badness. Since
>> you're dealing with the same audio, you're crossfade turns into a
>> relatively linear gain change when needed. I've done it plenty of
>> times. It's not pretty, but it is effective. I've also recorded
>> automation with a control surface, which works as long as you don't
>> want to actually edit stuff after the fact, other than undo, assuming
>> you're still at the point where you can get away with that.
>>
>> On 5/21/2013 7:14 AM, Chris Belle wrote:
>>> So your essentially splitting out bits of audio and then doing volume
>>> gain on them?
>>>
>>> Well, I guess that'd work for small volume changes, but splitting out a
>>> clop or item in reaper land and doing a big change would probably cause
>>> problems with audible pops and such.
>>>
>>> We really do need a better way to do automation with reaper.
>>>
>>> That and midi editing is kind of what's kept me from going all the way
>>> with reaper.
>>>
>>> But there are things to love about this little swiss army knive.
>>>
>>> And ofcourse sighted people can draw envelopes and all that with sonar
>>> or reaper, it doesn't matter for them.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Chesworth"
>>> <scottchesworth at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 4:59 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Routing Tracks to master track
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hey Chris,
>>>>
>>>> Using the latest version here. At one point I had a reason for that,
>>>> but tbh it's been so long that I can't think what it was. Maybe next
>>>> time I get a few days off I'll roll back to 3.78 and see what's
>>>> missing. For now, I'm using item gain for volume and muting
>>>> automation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 5/20/13, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>> Hey, that's great.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you using 378 or a later version?
>>>>>
>>>>> And what about working around things like automation?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Scott Chesworth" <scottchesworth at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 4:09 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Routing Tracks to master track
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Tracking and/or mixing pretty much every day in Reaper now, for and
>>>>>> with humans who are paying actual money.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just sayin'...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/20/13, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Patrick like you though I use reaper for just a few little things,
>>>>>>> I've
>>>>>>> chosen to stay with the 3.78 version for the better fit with the
>>>>>>> static
>>>>>>> access development, because nothing messes with work flow as much
>>>>>>> as not
>>>>>>> being able to do basic i/o stuff efficiently.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I always went for the latest versions before but I'm finding I can
>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> do stuff now with reaper and it actually does what I told it to do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What good is a newer version if you can't get to things, or it
>>>>>>> breaks
>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> that you had, and this is the worst kind of senario for new users,
>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>> old
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hats visiting a new set of tools.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I easily created a loop, tuned it and made it the speed I wanted,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> exported it, and whala,
>>>>>>> no extra space in the loop, no why the hell didn't that work, with
>>>>>>> 3.78
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> just works and everything talks right.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course when I get in to more advanced functions, i might take my
>>>>>>> statement back, but for now I think I'll stay where your at.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since you do lots of post production and have to do essential
>>>>>>> repetitive
>>>>>>> tasks real world
>>>>>>> audio chores
>>>>>>> I value your experience and I think your the only one maybe besides
>>>>>>> Roy
>>>>>>> who I personally know who's actually doing work with reaper.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not to take away from the explorations others are doing and talking
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> but if there's a compelling reason to work with later versions
>>>>>>> and put
>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>> with the broken access, I haven't heard it yet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe the better midi editing?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Patrick Perdue" <patrick at pdaudio.net>
>>>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 9:25 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Routing Tracks to master track
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Everything should already be routed to master, unless you
>>>>>>>> specifically
>>>>>>>> unrouted them all individually, or if your tracks are in a folder
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> isn't sending to the master send itself. That's how the default new
>>>>>>>> project template works. All newly created tracks are automatically
>>>>>>>> routed
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to master. If you press shift+f5 (mute master track) and all your
>>>>>>>> audio
>>>>>>>> goes away, then you'll know all your tracks are, in fact,
>>>>>>>> sending to
>>>>>>>> master. You can also use shift+j or shift+k to read the peak
>>>>>>>> meter of
>>>>>>>> left/right, respectively, of master track's output in real time.
>>>>>>>> Assuming
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> you are using Reaper 3.78, where you can still fully access all the
>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> context menus for routing, unlike 4.x versions, pressing
>>>>>>>> shift+context
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> any highlighted track (it's a bit different for folders,) and
>>>>>>>> one of
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> options is "master track." Check or uncheck that box to
>>>>>>>> route/unroute
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> selected track from master here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/19/2013 9:08 PM,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alexander Westphal wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hello all!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have a compressor on the master track, but how do I now route
>>>>>>>>> all my
>>>>>>>>> tracks to the master?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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