[RWP] behringer bcf 2000, and reaaccess

Tue May 14 12:44:03 EDT 2013

Klinke's plug goes much deeper than just using standard Mackie mode.
I know only what little I read about Klinke's plug's  features, but I 
got the impression that it is super detailed in what it controls.
It represents several years work.
Also, there's a manual for what Klinke's plug is controlling.
I found it very difficult to know what the standard mackie modes are 
controlling; beyond obvious settings one can hear; like pan and volume.
Some of the buttons in standard Mackie mode aren't very useful as they 
are, like the rewind and fast forward transport buttons don't creep 
along for me; but just zip instantly to the beginning and end of the 
timeline; same as you'd get by pressing home and end
One would need to somehow associate zooming in with them, to get them to 
move slower along the timeline.
I prefer to navigate along the timeline from the arrow keys on the 
qwerty keyboard anyway, but you can reassign the transport buttons if 
they aren't useful for you.
Indi
On 5/14/2013 10:29 AM, Goldfinga Productions wrote:
> On 5/14/2013 9:58 AM, Justin Thornton wrote:
>> thanks so much for this email I can't wait to receive my bcf2000 on wed
>> I will keep you guys posted on findings
>> do we know if the display reader works at all in reaper as of now?
>> whats the different between standard sonar Mackie moad and installing
>> the klinkes plugging?
>> On May 14, 2013, at 9:39 AM, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>> There are several or many versions of Klinke's Plug, since it evolved
>>> over several years as people asked for different features, and also
>>> as other programmers took the basic form and adapted it to their
>>> particular needs.
>>> One form is called Half and Half, doing something I first noticed
>>> about the BCF2000 in its default mode, that it was great for
>>> controlling VST plugs.
>>> Half and Half devotes some controls to controlling Reaper and some to
>>> the VST plugs.
>>> Notice that there are several bundles of Sysex files with presets
>>> designed by various people; that transform what the BCF2000 does.
>>> You may find one of the forms suits your own needs; or you may end up
>>> modifying it yourself.
>>> Maybe there's a forum with a later version, but here's the link to a
>>> sort of Uber Forum for Klinke's Plug and other associated posts:
>>> http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=33149
>>> Near the top is the link to Klinke's Plug version .08 and Klinke's
>>> PDF manual.
>>> If anyone finds a later Klinke plug than 0.08, please let us know.
>>>
>>> It is good to read as many threads as your sanity can bear, since
>>> many people have commented on the plug or plugs throughout its
>>> development.
>>> There's one intro, I think by Clerik, that is very clear but dated.
>>> It's interesting to know that the BCF2000 controls Reaper right out
>>> of the box, with no plug or other map, and controls in a slightly
>>> different way; depending on which emulated mackie mode is chosen.
>>> The endless coder knobs up top seem to control pan per track on most
>>> of the modes, but it depends, since those knobs can send 64 different
>>> messages.
>>>
>>> Mackie mode Cubase seems to make the faders jump to the next 8 tracks
>>> when you select the subsequent track in Reaper, like it is set
>>> originally to control volume on tracks 1 through 8, and can cause the
>>> faders to jump to tracks 9 through 16 when you select track 9,
>>> etcetera, only I couldn't get mine to do it.
>>> Just for interest; Here's a video with the BCF2000 in Mackie Mode
>>> Sonar, where you select the faders to control tracks 1 through 8, 9
>>> through 16, etcetera, by hand:
>>> www.youtube.com/watch?v=muYXD75WJNQ
>>>
>>> Here's a link to the video with it doing it automatically while in
>>> Mackie Mode Cubase:
>>> You can hear the motorized faders jumping to new settings as he
>>> selects tracks.
>>> By the way; when I first got it, something caused the faders on mine
>>> to jump by themselves even when it was shut off; very spooky!
>>> The ghost in the machine?
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHRgaeCOsVc
>>> It's probably good to read Chris Smart's guide to using the Behringer
>>> BCF2000 in Mackie Mode Sonar, for Tim Burgess's new talking plug for
>>> the BCF2000 to run  Sonar version 8.5.3; sorry I don't have the link
>>> at hand.
>>> Tim will soon be finished with a later release, which is universal,
>>> for all screenreaders and all daws, Sonar, Reaper, ProTools, etcetera.
>>> It will have the advantage of speech, both ways, to read the BCF2000
>>> settings, plus what's happening in the daw.
>>> Now, whether Tim's BCF2000 mapping with speech will ever combine with
>>> Klinke's Plug or not, who knows?
>>> What a complicated world it is, and just keeps getting complicated er
>>> and complicated er!
>>> Indi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/13/2013 2:16 PM, Justin Thornton wrote:
>>>> its called Klinke's plugging for reaper
>>>> this apparently sets up the bcf2000 to control reaper
>>>> On May 13, 2013, at 1:42 PM, Daniel Romero <djdan567 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Justin, what's the name of the plug in for the surface?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/13/13, Justin Thornton <drummer060891 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I know this may sound like a lot to get stared with
>>>>>> I thank you guys for being patient with me
>>>>>> in 2 days I will be getting a behringer bcd 2000 control surface
>>>>>> I have read about the plugging which makes the surface talk with a
>>>>>> screen
>>>>>> reader
>>>>>> if I install this plugging will my reaaccess be affected?
>>>>>> I can't seem to find a clear guide on how to install the plugging
>>>>>> to be used
>>>>>> by reaper
>>>>>> I'm very new to control surfaces and have done my googling
>>>>>> I just don't quite understand how to get it all up and running
>>>>>> could anyone give me any pointers/tips
>>>>>> thanks so much
>>>>>> JT
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> How much are those bcf controlers going for now? I thought about selling
> the ones I have, and getting a bcf, and bcr...
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