[RWP] behringer bcf 2000, and reaaccess

Tue May 14 10:29:42 EDT 2013

On 5/14/2013 9:58 AM, Justin Thornton wrote:
> thanks so much for this email I can't wait to receive my bcf2000 on wed
> I will keep you guys posted on findings
> do we know if the display reader works at all in reaper as of now?
> whats the different between standard sonar Mackie moad and installing the klinkes plugging?
> On May 14, 2013, at 9:39 AM, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
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>> There are several or many versions of Klinke's Plug, since it evolved over several years as people asked for different features, and also as other programmers took the basic form and adapted it to their particular needs.
>> One form is called Half and Half, doing something I first noticed about the BCF2000 in its default mode, that it was great for controlling VST plugs.
>> Half and Half devotes some controls to controlling Reaper and some to the VST plugs.
>> Notice that there are several bundles of Sysex files with presets designed by various people; that transform what the BCF2000 does.
>> You may find one of the forms suits your own needs; or you may end up modifying it yourself.
>> Maybe there's a forum with a later version, but here's the link to a sort of Uber Forum for Klinke's Plug and other associated posts:
>> http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=33149
>> Near the top is the link to Klinke's Plug version .08 and Klinke's PDF manual.
>> If anyone finds a later Klinke plug than 0.08, please let us know.
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>> It is good to read as many threads as your sanity can bear, since many people have commented on the plug or plugs throughout its development.
>> There's one intro, I think by Clerik, that is very clear but dated.
>> It's interesting to know that the BCF2000 controls Reaper right out of the box, with no plug or other map, and controls in a slightly different way; depending on which emulated mackie mode is chosen.
>> The endless coder knobs up top seem to control pan per track on most of the modes, but it depends, since those knobs can send 64 different messages.
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>> Mackie mode Cubase seems to make the faders jump to the next 8 tracks when you select the subsequent track in Reaper, like it is set originally to control volume on tracks 1 through 8, and can cause the faders to jump to tracks 9 through 16 when you select track 9, etcetera, only I couldn't get mine to do it.
>> Just for interest; Here's a video with the BCF2000 in Mackie Mode Sonar, where you select the faders to control tracks 1 through 8, 9 through 16, etcetera, by hand:
>> www.youtube.com/watch?v=muYXD75WJNQ
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>> Here's a link to the video with it doing it automatically while in Mackie Mode Cubase:
>> You can hear the motorized faders jumping to new settings as he selects tracks.
>> By the way; when I first got it, something caused the faders on mine to jump by themselves even when it was shut off; very spooky!
>> The ghost in the machine?
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>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHRgaeCOsVc
>> It's probably good to read Chris Smart's guide to using the Behringer BCF2000 in Mackie Mode Sonar, for Tim Burgess's new talking plug for the BCF2000 to run  Sonar version 8.5.3; sorry I don't have the link at hand.
>> Tim will soon be finished with a later release, which is universal, for all screenreaders and all daws, Sonar, Reaper, ProTools, etcetera.
>> It will have the advantage of speech, both ways, to read the BCF2000 settings, plus what's happening in the daw.
>> Now, whether Tim's BCF2000 mapping with speech will ever combine with Klinke's Plug or not, who knows?
>> What a complicated world it is, and just keeps getting complicated er and complicated er!
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>> On 5/13/2013 2:16 PM, Justin Thornton wrote:
>>> its called Klinke's plugging for reaper
>>> this apparently sets up the bcf2000 to control reaper
>>> On May 13, 2013, at 1:42 PM, Daniel Romero <djdan567 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> Justin, what's the name of the plug in for the surface?
>>>>
>>>> On 5/13/13, Justin Thornton <drummer060891 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I know this may sound like a lot to get stared with
>>>>> I thank you guys for being patient with me
>>>>> in 2 days I will be getting a behringer bcd 2000 control surface
>>>>> I have read about the plugging which makes the surface talk with a screen
>>>>> reader
>>>>> if I install this plugging will my reaaccess be affected?
>>>>> I can't seem to find a clear guide on how to install the plugging to be used
>>>>> by reaper
>>>>> I'm very new to control surfaces and have done my googling
>>>>> I just don't quite understand how to get it all up and running
>>>>> could anyone give me any pointers/tips
>>>>> thanks so much
>>>>> JT
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How much are those bcf controlers going for now? I thought about selling 
the ones I have, and getting a bcf, and bcr...