[RWP] Has Anyone Tried Fingers Groove Tool?

[Indigo]

I think it's exactly like cakewalk's Groove Quantize.
I've heard it used, maybe from  FL Studio or Logic; to impart some kind 
of cyncopation or Latin style shuffle, something like that.
There was a bunch of agitation in the Cockos forums for it for a couple 
of years, then Standing Waters Studios did it.
That's why I say if we can express what it is we want for access; 
instead of a nameless vacuum that the developers can't get a handle 
onto; we could get it by going through the standard process; to put it 
on the desired feature list in the forum for specifically created to 
request  features.
You go there and vote for a desired feature.
Eventually it gets done.
The words More access is not gonna do the trick; it needs to be specific.
I just looked through all 3000 od actions, and all of the actions in the 
ReaAccess control panel are there, even F12 learning mode.
Those are not some kind of mysterious Python language; they're just 
custom actions done with regular Reaper tools; with either JS or ReaScript.
I read a forum post from a guy asking how to make a custom action script 
to quantize all notes to position in a selected item.
Once he clearly stated what he wanted, one poster said he would submit 
it to the JS/ReaScript group; then a second poster said don't bother, 
there's already a SWS extension that quantizes notes to position with a 
shortcut, without bringing up the regular quantize dialog.
I immediately went to www.standingwatersstudios.com and downloaded the 
installer, so I could begin using that quantize shortcut.
That's where I noticed the groove quantize tool.
A huge amount of access is already done; just waiting for us to use it.

Sometimes the string of actions is not so elegant, but still workable.
Like I want to record perfect 2 or 4measure loops; so I don't need to 
trim them afterwards so they loop seamlessly.
Sonar, Logic, whatever might have a way to limit recording length to X 
measures; , but in Reaper you can limit recording length, but it's only 
expressed in hours, minutes, seconds.
It never totals perfectly to 2 or 4 measures, I tried without success.
But, you create an action macro, like this:
Set the armed track to Automation touch.
The metronome will tick away until you touch a key on your midi keyboard.
Immediately after a key is touched; the timeline jumps back to 00 and 
recording begins.
The next action is Wait X number of seconds to perform next action.
I'll need to time that one for 2 or 4 measures.
Awkward, yeah, but it'll work.
The final action is Start/Stop at end of measure.
It's a simple example, now I need to learn how to string those couple of 
actions together with a Reaper macro.
I'll bet all those custom actions Ivan made that begin with Say; that 
tell us swhere the cursor is located, etcetera; from about 1051 to 1066; 
wouldn't be all that difficult to copy the structure of; just 
substituting different values to point to.
I haven't found the right term  yet, but there must be a template of 
some kind that could bundle additional custom actions; with their 
assigned shortcuts; that could maybe load along with ReaAccess.
Indi




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On 5/13/2013 5:09 PM, Gordon Kent wrote:
> I guess this is like the groove quantize in cakewalk.  It's been around
> since cakewalk pro audio 6 or so.  I never used it, though I could see
> where it might come in handy.
> Gord
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Indigo
> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 3:12 PM
> To: Reapers Without Peepers
> Subject: [RWP] Has Anyone Tried Fingers Groove Tool?
>
> http://www.standingwaterstudios.com/
> __________
>
> Fingers Groove Tool
>
> 1 About
> 2 How to get get there
> 3 Groove tool dialog
> 3.1 Groove files window
> 3.2 Right side
> 4 Groove markers
> 5 How to
> 5.1 make custom groove
> 5.2 apply custom groove
> 6 See also
> About
> The Fingers Groove Tool is a part of the SWS extension (v.2 and later),
> and is for quantizing audio and midi.
> How to get get there
> Extensions > Groove Tool..
> or
> Go to Actions dialog > filter "fng groove"
> Groove tool dialog
> Groove files window
> ?List of grooves in selected folder
> Please select groove to apply.
> Right-click for:
> ?Select groove folder
> ?Save groove: Saves User Groove as file (prompts for folder/ name)(see
> Get user groove)
> Right side
> ?Sensitivity: Selects groove grid-size
> ?Strength: If/how much midi-notes/items are quantized to chosen groove
> ?Velocity: If/how much midi-notes velocity are matched with groove
> ?Target
> ?Selected items: Applies changes to audio or midi items
> ?Selected notes: Applies changes to midi-notes
> ?Apply groove: Applies the changes chosen.
> ?Get user groove: Loads selected midi-pattern to **User Groove**
> Groove markers
> How to
> make custom groove
> ?Make or select a midi item in Main Window
> ?Edit one measure or more to make a pattern for your desired groove.
> ?Select only the portion of the midi-item that you want to use
> ?Hit "Get user groove". Your groove is now saved as **User Groove**
> ?Right-click Groove-files (Groove tool window), "Save groove.." (optional)
> apply custom groove
> ?Select the midi- or audioitems you want to apply groove to.
> ?Select **User Groove** or your saved groove.
> ?Select "items" for items, "notes" for midi-notes.
> ?Set strength position and velocity as desired
> ?Hit "Apply groove"
> Be sure to monitor the changes. Undo and change settings as necessary.
> See also
>
> http://wiki.cockos.com/wiki/index.php/Fingers_Groove_Tool________
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