[RWP] considering purchasing the behringer BCF2000 controlsurface, but have a few questions

Tue May 7 23:42:15 EDT 2013

I will have to check out this plug-in. Where can I get it?

GF

On May 7, 2013, at 5:47 PM, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:

> Hi Patrick,
> I downloaded Klink's map for BCF2000, but didn't get round to studying what it controls.
> Also, which variation of Klink's map  you get depends on which forum thread you go to; and it never seems to be finished, there's a later version every time I go to the Cockos forums.
> Did you get enough documentation to understand what it controls?
> Thanks,
> Indi
> 
> On 5/7/2013 4:47 PM, Patrick Perdue wrote:
>> I'm using the Mackie protocol with my Nanokontrol, and Klinke's control
>> surface plugin, which offers a better implementation of Mackie Control
>> than the stock Reaper support.
>> 
>> On 5/7/2013 4:23 PM, Gordon Kent wrote:
>>> The only one I've gotten to work reliably is the frontier designs
>>> tranzport, which isn't really a surface.  Make sure the control midi
>>> input and output of whatever surface you are trying to use is set to
>>> control only in reaper. I may have gotten my alesis master control
>>> working, I don't remember, but it would have been with the mackie
>>> protycol.  I forget which mode I had to put the surface in, e.g. cubase,
>>> sonar, pro tools, etc.
>>> Gord
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Goldfinga Productions
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 1:40 PM
>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] considering purchasing the behringer BCF2000
>>> controlsurface, but have a few questions
>>> 
>>> I have three control surfaces, none of them want to play friendly with
>>> reaper. Which control protocol should I be using? And then I'm going to
>>> have to figure out how to get each controller to activate that
>>> particular protocol.
>>> 
>>> GF
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 7, 2013, at 9:02 AM, Patrick Perdue <patrick at pdaudio.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I don't have  a BCF2000 yet. I have a Korg NanoKotrol. To do what you
>>>> describe, you'd have to use two profiles from the controller itself,
>>>> one that acts as a standard control surface for track pan, level,
>>>> mute/solo/arm, transport, etc. and another that sends out a completely
>>>> different set of CC values for something like a generic button/knob
>>>> box for effects. Bad things happen if you try using the Nanokontrol to
>>>> manipulate effects when it's set up as a Mackie Universal Control
>>>> emulator, and I assume any other controller using the Mackie Universal
>>>> Control protocol would have similar issues. Unfortunately, the
>>>> NanoKontrol editor, necessary to make this a bit easier by creating
>>>> scenes on the controller's flash, thus making things a lot easier, is
>>>> 100% inaccessible. So, at the moment, the only way I can do this
>>>> reliably is to clear the settings on the controller, which defaults to
>>>> sending midi CC values starting at 1 all on channel 1, when I want to
>>>> use it for controlling effect
>>> s, then pressing the key combination to get it into "Sonar mode," or
>>> Mackie Control Universal mode, for actually acting as a control surface.
>>> What I eventually want to do is get something like a BCF2000, dedicate
>>> it for track stuff, then use the NanoKontrol as a dedicated box for
>>> controlling plugin parameters. Lots of people are doing this with the
>>> BCF2000 and a BCR2000, which is all rotary encoders and buttons, whereas
>>> the BCF2000 has flying faders. The BCR2000 has more available controls,
>>> but the Nanokontrol is a lot cheaper, and will serve just as well for my
>>> purposes.
>>>> 
>>>> I am, however, frustrated by the lack of access to automation. Once
>>>> you've created envelope points, you're stuck with them, unless you can
>>>> still get to them in the undo history. If you can see, you can re-draw
>>>> envelope curves after they've been created, but with ReaAccess, not
>>>> much to be done. A fix was promised in the never to be released next
>>>> version of ReaAccess, of course, as well as a way to create, edit and
>>>> remove automation from a keyboard, without the need for a control
>>>> surface at all., I.E. the way JSonar does it. I have faked my way
>>>> around that by overlapping items with the same material, panning or
>>>> changing levels of each, then overlapping the items as necessary to
>>>> create envelopes, fades, linear panning, etc. without the use of a
>>>> control surface, and it does work, though it's pretty hacky.
>>>> 
>>>> On 5/6/2013 10:06 PM, Jim Snowbarger wrote:
>>>>> This sounds like mapping surface controls to control the parameter of a
>>>>> particular effect on a particular track.
>>>>> IS that right?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Suppose you wanted to assign some knob to the volume of a track, not an
>>>>> effect parameter.  How would you do that?
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex H."
>>>>> <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 8:33 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] considering purchasing the behringer BCF2000 control
>>>>> surface, but have a few questions
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> He means that in the FX window you can assign a parameter to a
>>>>>> button/pot using MIDI learn, and set up custom mappings to suit your
>>>>>> workflow.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 5/6/13, Justin Thornton <drummer060891 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> what do you mean when you say "click on Param in the effects routing
>>>>>>> page"
>>>>>>> just a little confused
>>>>>>> On May 6, 2013, at 9:10 AM, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> click on Param in the effects routing page
>>>>>>> 
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