[RWP] considering purchasing the behringer BCF2000 controlsurface, but have a few questions

Tue May 7 16:23:42 EDT 2013

The only one I've gotten to work reliably is the frontier designs tranzport, 
which isn't really a surface.  Make sure the control midi input and output 
of whatever surface you are trying to use is set to control only in reaper. 
I may have gotten my alesis master control working, I don't remember, but it 
would have been with the mackie protycol.  I forget which mode I had to put 
the surface in, e.g. cubase, sonar, pro tools, etc.
Gord

-----Original Message----- 
From: Goldfinga Productions
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 1:40 PM
To: Reapers Without Peepers
Subject: Re: [RWP] considering purchasing the behringer BCF2000 
controlsurface, but have a few questions

I have three control surfaces, none of them want to play friendly with 
reaper. Which control protocol should I be using? And then I'm going to have 
to figure out how to get each controller to activate that particular 
protocol.

GF

On May 7, 2013, at 9:02 AM, Patrick Perdue <patrick at pdaudio.net> wrote:

> I don't have  a BCF2000 yet. I have a Korg NanoKotrol. To do what you 
> describe, you'd have to use two profiles from the controller itself, one 
> that acts as a standard control surface for track pan, level, 
> mute/solo/arm, transport, etc. and another that sends out a completely 
> different set of CC values for something like a generic button/knob box 
> for effects. Bad things happen if you try using the Nanokontrol to 
> manipulate effects when it's set up as a Mackie Universal Control 
> emulator, and I assume any other controller using the Mackie Universal 
> Control protocol would have similar issues. Unfortunately, the NanoKontrol 
> editor, necessary to make this a bit easier by creating scenes on the 
> controller's flash, thus making things a lot easier, is 100% inaccessible. 
> So, at the moment, the only way I can do this reliably is to clear the 
> settings on the controller, which defaults to sending midi CC values 
> starting at 1 all on channel 1, when I want to use it for controlling 
> effect
s, then pressing the key combination to get it into "Sonar mode," or Mackie 
Control Universal mode, for actually acting as a control surface. What I 
eventually want to do is get something like a BCF2000, dedicate it for track 
stuff, then use the NanoKontrol as a dedicated box for controlling plugin 
parameters. Lots of people are doing this with the BCF2000 and a BCR2000, 
which is all rotary encoders and buttons, whereas the BCF2000 has flying 
faders. The BCR2000 has more available controls, but the Nanokontrol is a 
lot cheaper, and will serve just as well for my purposes.
>
> I am, however, frustrated by the lack of access to automation. Once you've 
> created envelope points, you're stuck with them, unless you can still get 
> to them in the undo history. If you can see, you can re-draw envelope 
> curves after they've been created, but with ReaAccess, not much to be 
> done. A fix was promised in the never to be released next version of 
> ReaAccess, of course, as well as a way to create, edit and remove 
> automation from a keyboard, without the need for a control surface at 
> all., I.E. the way JSonar does it. I have faked my way around that by 
> overlapping items with the same material, panning or changing levels of 
> each, then overlapping the items as necessary to create envelopes, fades, 
> linear panning, etc. without the use of a control surface, and it does 
> work, though it's pretty hacky.
>
> On 5/6/2013 10:06 PM, Jim Snowbarger wrote:
>> This sounds like mapping surface controls to control the parameter of a
>> particular effect on a particular track.
>> IS that right?
>>
>> Suppose you wanted to assign some knob to the volume of a track, not an
>> effect parameter.  How would you do that?
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex H." <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 8:33 AM
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] considering purchasing the behringer BCF2000 control
>> surface, but have a few questions
>>
>>
>>> He means that in the FX window you can assign a parameter to a
>>> button/pot using MIDI learn, and set up custom mappings to suit your
>>> workflow.
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
>>> On 5/6/13, Justin Thornton <drummer060891 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> what do you mean when you say "click on Param in the effects routing
>>>> page"
>>>> just a little confused
>>>> On May 6, 2013, at 9:10 AM, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> click on Param in the effects routing page
>>>>
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