[RWP] considering purchasing the behringer BCF2000 control surface, but have a few questions

[Patrick Perdue]

I don't have  a BCF2000 yet. I have a Korg NanoKotrol. To do what you 
describe, you'd have to use two profiles from the controller itself, one 
that acts as a standard control surface for track pan, level, 
mute/solo/arm, transport, etc. and another that sends out a completely 
different set of CC values for something like a generic button/knob box 
for effects. Bad things happen if you try using the Nanokontrol to 
manipulate effects when it's set up as a Mackie Universal Control 
emulator, and I assume any other controller using the Mackie Universal 
Control protocol would have similar issues. Unfortunately, the 
NanoKontrol editor, necessary to make this a bit easier by creating 
scenes on the controller's flash, thus making things a lot easier, is 
100% inaccessible. So, at the moment, the only way I can do this 
reliably is to clear the settings on the controller, which defaults to 
sending midi CC values starting at 1 all on channel 1, when I want to 
use it for controlling effects, then pressing the key combination to get 
it into "Sonar mode," or Mackie Control Universal mode, for actually 
acting as a control surface. What I eventually want to do is get 
something like a BCF2000, dedicate it for track stuff, then use the 
NanoKontrol as a dedicated box for controlling plugin parameters. Lots 
of people are doing this with the BCF2000 and a BCR2000, which is all 
rotary encoders and buttons, whereas the BCF2000 has flying faders. The 
BCR2000 has more available controls, but the Nanokontrol is a lot 
cheaper, and will serve just as well for my purposes.

I am, however, frustrated by the lack of access to automation. Once 
you've created envelope points, you're stuck with them, unless you can 
still get to them in the undo history. If you can see, you can re-draw 
envelope curves after they've been created, but with ReaAccess, not much 
to be done. A fix was promised in the never to be released next version 
of ReaAccess, of course, as well as a way to create, edit and remove 
automation from a keyboard, without the need for a control surface at 
all., I.E. the way JSonar does it. I have faked my way around that by 
overlapping items with the same material, panning or changing levels of 
each, then overlapping the items as necessary to create envelopes, 
fades, linear panning, etc. without the use of a control surface, and it 
does work, though it's pretty hacky.

On 5/6/2013 10:06 PM, Jim Snowbarger wrote:
> This sounds like mapping surface controls to control the parameter of a
> particular effect on a particular track.
> IS that right?
>
> Suppose you wanted to assign some knob to the volume of a track, not an
> effect parameter.  How would you do that?
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex H." <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 8:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [RWP] considering purchasing the behringer BCF2000 control
> surface, but have a few questions
>
>
>> He means that in the FX window you can assign a parameter to a
>> button/pot using MIDI learn, and set up custom mappings to suit your
>> workflow.
>>
>> Alex
>>
>> On 5/6/13, Justin Thornton <drummer060891 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> what do you mean when you say "click on Param in the effects routing
>>> page"
>>> just a little confused
>>> On May 6, 2013, at 9:10 AM, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> click on Param in the effects routing page
>>>
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