[RWP] What's the current state of n I kontact accessibility with hsc and ahk?

Indigo 33indigo at charter.net
Sat May 4 19:45:48 EDT 2013 

I once tried to work up an interest in FM8, but the Reaper coordinates I 
found for the preset plus and minus buttons didn't seem to work in 
Sonar; or maybe Window-Eyes saw something different from Jaws, don't 
know what; but nobody else on MidiMag ever raved about how amazing FM8 
sounds are; so I guess there was no interest.
Same for Absynth.
Interest in it seemed to disappear after version 3 or so
I think there are already Jaws scripts for version 3.
I sort of ran version 3 in Window-Eyes without scripts, could play its 
presets anyway, but I thought they were rather sterile and cold.
Absynth Version 5 is very different, rich amazing sounds, but a real 
challange to run.
If I only try to play presets I'm okay in it, its interface doesn't 
change, but several times I've got into its preset morphing function, I 
think it is, which makes very interesting new sounds; but then 
afterwards I couldn't find the preset buttons again at the usual 
coordinates, probably an example of the interface changes you speak of.
There must be ten thousand other great synths.
How about Gladiator, Zebra, the new RayBlaster, LinPlug ChronoX, Sylenth1?
Dune is a nice one that displays its presets immediately, and always has 
several of its parameters associated with a control surface.
Cakewalk's Z3TA immediately displays a huge list of presets, but its a 
shrill sounding thing that hurts my ears.
Nexus is interesting, but I seem to be only getting a handful of its 
presets to play.
It must have catagories of presets that I'm not finding.
Camel Audio's Alchemy has my heart at the moment, and it's so complex 
it'll take me a while; maybe a lifetime;  to find all of it.
I don't have Omnisphere; so I can't compare Alchemy and Omnisphere, but 
with Alchemy you can introduce your own samples and SFZ files.
The same preset parameters acting on different samples makes entirely 
new sounds, and it's an easy change.
In Alchemy there's a control map of 16 midi controllers ready to map to 
any control surface; and controls make dramatic changes in its sounds.
I have no hope of ever getting total access to Alchemy, since Alchemy's 
granular mode; 1 of its 4 synthesis engines;  can have  thousands of 
tiny grains of sound along its sound timeline; like steps, each with its 
own parameters like volume, pitch, effects, etcetera.
One could spend a whole lifetime in granular synthesis alone.
Indi


On 5/4/2013 5:42 PM, Steve Spamer wrote:
> Talking of Kontakt, how many are using or have FM8, Massive, Absynth etc?
> Cheers Steve.
>
> Visit:
> www.vipaudioaccess.com
> for audio access solutions, articles, demos, to showcase your music and  to
> basically get involved!
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Indigo
> Sent: 04 May 2013 15:10
> To: Reapers Without Peepers
> Subject: Re: [RWP] What's the current state of n I kontact accessibility
> with hsc and ahk?
>
> Thanks, Scott.
> What is considered a reasonable donation?
> Indi
>
> On 5/2/2013 1:10 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>> I took Gianluca's AHK scripts for a quick spin earlier with Kontakt 5
>> on my usual Reaper x64, Win7, NVDA. Overall, really useful. I was able
>> to load up a few instruments, point one of them at the right directory
>> to find its samples and resave it. There are a few other commands
>> available that I haven't explored yet, just did what I needed to do
>> earlier on and cracked on with the job at hand as I was pressed for
>> time. Sometimes, it took a couple of attempts to get the AHK
>> keystrokes to find their intended target, but it wasn't a huge
>> frustration. It's also worth noting that on my system, if I switched
>> out of the fx window midway through a workflow that I was relying on
>> the scripts for, I had to do some mousing around to get focus back. I
>> guess it's fair to say that there's still a bit of jiggery-pokery
>> involved, but whatever, it's progress IMO.
>>
>> I haven't compared these side by side to the free HSC sets thanks to
>> my JAWS installation being put through the ringer. I'll give it a go
>> next time I need to use Kontakt assuming FS have figured out a
>> solution by then, this is the weirdest case of JAWS getting its
>> knickers in a knot that I've ever seen. Would be good to hear from
>> anyone who's already tried the HSC approach in the meantime.
>>
>> Anyway, for any non JAWS users who were teetering on the edge of
>> donating and waiting for someone else to take the leap, I leaped and
>> lived to tell the tale.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>> On 5/2/13, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>>> Scott, please let us know how well Gienluca's AHK scripts for Kontakt
>>> work for you.
>>> I guess I don't expect to ever get full access to a Native Instruments
>>> program, but it's nice to get a handle onto the library browser anyway.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Indigo
>>> .
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/1/2013 4:47 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>>> There are AHK scripts for Kontakt. Not 100% sure how the functionality
>>>> compares to Steve's HSC efforts, but thought it would be worth
>>>> confirming for everyone that they do exist as donationware. If you
>>>> want to find out more or make a donation to acquire them, the chap you
>>>> need to be talking with is called Gianluca. You can write to him using
>>>> gianluca.apollaro88 at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>> I'm gonna be trying these out when cash is flowing a little more
>>>> freely, hopefully in a few days time.
>>>>
>>>> Hth someone
>>>>
>>>> Scott
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 5/1/13, Patrick Perdue <patrick at pdaudio.net> wrote:
>>>>> Same here. NVDA with Reaper is fast and awesome. I'm definitely not
>>>>> missing
>>>>> the sluggish Jaws keyboard intercept slowing things down with fast
>>>>> starts/stops when editing big projects and the like.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 30, 2013, at 5:52 PM, "Alex H." <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Too bad this is all for JAWS. I'm an NVDA user....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/30/13, Steve Spamer <steve at vipaudioaccess.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Trahern, no you can't make samples from wave files. It's just
>>>>>>> giving
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> the ability to manage any instruments and libraries you may have.
>>>>>>> Using
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> to make sample instruments is way off, unless you have quite a few
>>>>>>> $$$'s
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> donate?  Cheers Steve.
>>>>>>> Visit:
>>>>>>> www.vipaudioaccess.com
>>>>>>> for audio access solutions, articles, demos, to showcase your music
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> basically get involved!
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of trahern
>>>>>>> culver
>>>>>>> Sent: 30 April 2013 11:24
>>>>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] What's the current state of n I kontact
>>>>>>> accessibility
>>>>>>> with hsc and ahk?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cool can you make samples from wav files? Kind regards trahern
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 30/04/2013, at 8:54 AM, Calvin Botha <djdarkness.botha at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can access kontakt's patch load dialogue and reset multi
> dialogue
>>>>>>>> as well as browsing for samples if kontakt doesn't find them in a
>>>>>>>> patch. Check the links to his site I provided. All is explained
>>>>>>>> their.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/30/13, trahern culver <sound.warrior20 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> So how much access to kontact do steavs scrips give the user? Kind
>>>>>>> regards
>>>>>>>>> trahern
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 30/04/2013, at 6:48 AM, Calvin Botha
> <djdarkness.botha at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hay trahern. TO understand the current state of Kontakt
>>>>>>>>>> accessibility,
>>>>>>>>>> you must realise that every library for kontakt has a different
>>>>>>>>>> interface with kontakt acting as a frontend for the library. It's
>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>> static like spectrosonics products or like most of the vsts found
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> Sonar or Reaper. As you know kontakt is bitmapped, with tons of
>>>>>>>>>> interface elements that change as one interacts with them.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So far Steve from VIP Audio access has done some amazing work with
>>>>>>>>>> regards to Kontakt accessibility. You can check out his latest hsc
>>>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>>> for kontakt and reaper here:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
> http://www.vipaudioaccess.com/free-hsc-set-kontakt-basic-operation/#comment-
>>>>>>> 444
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Steve has also taken on the mamith task of making some libraries
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> kontakt accessible. The first 2 he has just finished are from
>>>>>>>>>> orange
>>>>>>>>>> tree samples. Absilutely amazing sounding guitar libraries. Check
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> out from the link below:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.vipaudioaccess.com/pricing-and-ordering/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Their are several demmos of these libraries up so far. I myself am
>>>>>>>>>> seriously keen on purchasing these.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/30/13, trahern culver <sound.warrior20 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hey all what's the current state of native instruments kontact
>>>>>>>>>>> accessabilitie with hsc and ahk? Is the latest version fully
>>>>>>> accessable?
>>>>>>>>>>> Your help with this question would be most welcome kind regards
>>>>>>>>>>> trahern
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>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> DJ D at rkn3ss
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Check me out on Soundcloud:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://soundcloud.com/dj-d-rkn3ss
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> as well as on Youtube:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/user/CalvinBotha/videos
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