[RWP] AutoHotKey A Few HotSpots
Chris Belle
cb1963 at sbcglobal.net
Fri Mar 15 09:40:00 EDT 2013
Stop chewing ice?
Never.
There's something too viseral and base about it I can't give up 'grin'.
I haven't used ahk that way yet, but for quickly navigating between lots of sliders and knobs, like v1. and p1. in sessiondrummer 3,
or going thr. for threshold or rat. for ratio on a compressor, that sort of logical quick jump thing it's just so narley.
But it'll take a real programmer to get the functionallity out of it your nifty hsc does with a wizzard style input thing.
But the good thing about ahk too is you can use parts of code over and over again and fill in the blanks, like if you get a nemu section or title section made, just change the relevant values and you have a new script already to go.
And hooking it up to an application is easy/.
So each has it's glory, and combining them correctly is the way to go.
I only chose ahk because it wouldn't tie folks to jaws, but I do use hsc a lot most of my students use that and hsc is probably the best helper tool to ever hit our community aside from screen-readers themselves.
So we shall see where all this mess goes and how far it can take us.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Snowbarger
To: Reapers Without Peepers
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [RWP] AutoHotKey A Few HotSpots
Limitless HotStrings. I have one AHK script that is called Fix My Pathetic typing.ahk.
It has almost 30 hot strings that correct my most common and annoying typing mistakes. 30 of them. I can't believe I'm such a keyboard clod. But, it has sure reduced my frustration level. I might even stop chewing ice.
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Belle
To: Reapers Without Peepers
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [RWP] AutoHotKey A Few HotSpots
Yes, jaws and window-eyes version of hotspot are more comprehensive for the average user for sure, but ahk is so fast, but if you want that tight integration with speech you have to pull other tricks.
the two married together should be a very formidable team.
It's hard to beat having limitless hot-strings.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Snowbarger
To: Reapers Without Peepers
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [RWP] AutoHotKey A Few HotSpots
Chriss, thanks for that snip.
The number 2 in
SetTitleMatchMode 2
means that, when it looks for a title match, the one it finds just needs to contain the one you specify somewhere inside it. It doesn't have to start with that. 1 means it must start with what you specify.
Anyway, I think there is one, and only one, active window at a time, and it is the highest level window containing the control with focus at the moment. And that wil be your reference for all coordinates.
It's a great little program, and I'll add it to my arsonal, long over due. But, there has been a bit of chatter about HSC versus AHK, and, after looking at it a bit, I think they are two different animals, with two different primary missions, with some overlap. AHK is a good tool for folks who don't have JAWS available to them. And, I can think of several ways I can make good use of it personally. But, unless you get pretty clever in your color searching, you will have a hard time using AHK with things that move around inside an application, or other active window. Still, that image search capability is pretty tantalizing. I hope it's reasonably responsive. I'm looking toward some relationship where HSC can use AHK to do the things HSC isn't good at.
But, at the end of the day, you can't beat using a program's object model, or API, to get at stuff. It is going to be much faster, and more accurate, more stable, less dependent on color schemes, screen resolution, and all those other visual vagaries that drive us nuts.
Most of all, speed. I don't know about you guys, but I want my DAW to be snappy, and fast, reapeatable and reliable. And these digital methods are the only interfaces that can provide that. We use these other tools when we have too.
It's better than nothing.
I think these pluggins spawn themselves off of the main application, and appear as their own top level windows.
Can you alt tab in and out of SFZ?
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Belle
To: Reapers Without Peepers
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 3:52 AM
Subject: Re: [RWP] AutoHotKey A Few HotSpots
This is what I have in the top of most of my ahk scripts.
#IfWinActive,sfz
SetTitleMatchMode 2
By changing the numerical value of the second line you set it to full screen, or window title, and I think there's something else but my memory could be playing tricks,
I'm not a fine programmer like your good self 'grin'.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Snowbarger
To: Reapers Without Peepers
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: [RWP] AutoHotKey A Few HotSpots
More about the AHK coordinates provided by a drying out David P Shortland from the Sunshine Coast.
AHK uses window-relative coords by default, but they are relative to the "active" window", or what some people call the foreground window.
In this case, they are relative to the top left corner of the Reaper application.
Once I use that window as a reference, I got this to work. I got the context menu that starts with input monitoring. but I had to do right click, not left click.
That didn't surprise me, except that his script said "click" and only provided coords, which is, as I read the AHK document, a left click by default.
So anyway, Not sure about why that is.
But, that is what AHK does. It apparently can not use smaller child windows as a reference, but uses absolute screen coordinates, or application-relative coords, depending on the CoordMode command, application relative by default.
AHK is a pretty interesting program, and it seems to be focused more on automating user tasks from the standpoint of a user manipulating multiple applications and perhaps less on working inside of an app. Not sure yet.
Naturally, I'm interested in learning more about what it can do. Maybe it can correct my incessant typing errors, turning, teh, into, the, and smae into same. That would be nice.
Perhaps the most interesting part was the ability to search for an image, including the ability to allow a measured amount of forgiveness on color matches. You can do that forgiveness thing on single pixel color searches too. Basically, you provide it with a .GIF, or .ICO, or any of several file formats that contain the image or icon you are looking for, tell it a region to search, and it pokes around looking for it.
I suspect that is a noticeably slow process, because they suggest ways to try to speed it up.
And, I'm not currently quite sure how we will identify the images to search for. We've got a boot strap problem there. I am class A stupid as a windows programmer. So, I'm more than a little behind the curve. but, the doc suggests you can often extract the icon images right out of the program itself. Yeah, go find that one.
But, how you actually do that is, so far, less clear.
I wonder if there is a way to gen up a little utility that lets a sightling click the mouse at the top left, and bottom right corners of an image of interest, and have the utility save that image as something we could then use AHK, or other equally equipped tool, to look for.
I think I have a sighted programmer who is interested enough in this stuff to help see if that can be done.
I shall pursue.
Anyway, David, thanks for breaking the ice. I have needed to check this out for some time, but just haven't gotten around to it. Their web site is wonderfully accessible. Very nice.
----- Original Message -----
From: David P Shortland
To: Reapers Without Peepers
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 1:13 AM
Subject: [RWP] AutoHotKey A Few HotSpots
Hi & Greetings from a drying out Sunshine Coast
Thought I would share this with anyone who may be interested
As I am charting my way thru the Help files of AutoHotKey and learning to Script this and that, well mainly for Omnisphere at present, here are a couple of co-ordinates that may be of helpin REAPER, with regards to a Certain Menu not opening with Apps Key & Up Arrow key
These co-ordinates will give access to a menu that will be spoken and contains settings for Audio & MIDI Inputs & Outputs.
136, 176 is for Trak 1
136, 276 is for Trak 2
Now for those of us who may be a little apprehensive in trying to write a script to access these co-ordinates,here its is...
Open up Notepad and type these lines as is, or just copy them across..
Numpad9 & Numpad1:: Click 136, 176
Numpad9 & Numpad2:: Click 136, 276
Save this document as AutoHotKey.ahk
Go to the directory where you just saved that script
Double Click on the file and it should ask you with what file do you wish to run the program?
Navigate to AutoHotKey and voila ... all should be good
Okay, just remember that the resolution on my System is 768 x 1024 , so one can deduce that if your resolution is different the co-ordinates will not match.
Now all you have to do when REAPER is open and you have several tracks in place
Press Numpad9 (hold it down and Press Numpad1 the Menu should open, make yourselections
Remember that this combination is for Trak 1.
I have also used the Numpad as ReaAccess and REAPER use a lot of keyboard combinations and this should not interfere.
Oh yes... DO NOT forget to press the NumLock .. it must be ON!
I have only given the co-ordinates for two trax, because I figure if you want to set up several combinations of In & Outs, just coply one of the tracks to another place.
Hopefully all will go smoothly... if not...I have left the country and gone into hiding...
Take care all
David P Shortland
DragonScore Productions
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