[RWP] Is This a SureFire Method of Opening Track Record Inputs Menu?
Indigo
33indigo at charter.net
Tue Mar 12 01:38:51 EDT 2013
Hey, I thought I found a universal simple solution.
Oh well, it works here, but I can't understand why it doesn't on other
folks systems.
Sorry,
Indi
On 3/11/2013 6:33 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
> Hey chaps,
>
> Nope, not working here on Reaper 4.3.2 with NVDA 2012.3.1 running on
> Win7 64. I tried with Default 4 and Default 3x themes, as classic 3x
> wasn't an option I could choose for some reason.
>
> Interestingly, I've just had a working set of eyes watch me carry out
> Indie's steps, and the focus isn't being adjusted visually here by
> choosing arm from the ReaAccess virtual mode thingy. That'd explain
> why it's not working I guess, although I've no idea why focus is being
> moved on Indie's system and not on mine or Gianluca's.
>
> Just adding the result in case it helps to narrow anything down...
>
> Scott
>
> On 3/11/13, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>> Hi Gianluca,
>> I just tried it again on this Windows 7 64 machine with NVDA, and I
>> can't get my simple method not to work.
>> However, I left out something I did that I thought had no effect, so
>> didn't mention it, that is, I went to ctrl+P options/preferences,
>> arrowed to theme; tab downand loaded the classic 3x theme.
>> I thought all it did was change the colors and did not notice any
>> difference, but I maybe was wrong, that the Reaper version 3x theme is
>> important.
>> Can't hurt, unless you are using default 4x colors to identify things
>> with your screenreader.
>> I put a checkmark on Allow Themes to Override.
>> I went to select theme and clicked enter on it; I selected classic 3x in
>> the combo box; I clicked on Load Theme; then Save Theme, maybe not
>> necessary steps, but I had no instructions how to change themes; then
>> clicked on Apply and OK.
>> Maybe try changing to classic 3x theme, and then the method might work?
>> If you are using default 4x theme colors for Jaws to find things, you
>> should be able to return to default 4x theme, if it doesn't help make my
>> method work.
>> Indi
>>
>>
>> On 3/11/2013 1:11 PM, Gianluca Apollaro wrote:
>>> Hi, I tried it with jaws and NVDA on the 32 bit version of reaper 4.32
>>> bit and it doesn't work, always the same message. I used the
>>> applications key and did everything you suggested.
>>> Best regards,
>>> Gianluca
>>> SkypeID: gianluca8815
>>> Il 11/03/2013 17:08, Indigo ha scritto:
>>>> Please try this and let me know if it works in all cases; especially
>>>> when you have a cluttered screen with lots of tracks and effects
>>>> going; okay?
>>>> Here's what I did:
>>>> In a new project; insert a track with ctrl+t.
>>>> Now, tab down to Record Arm; and select On with your spacebar.
>>>> Now press enter to save that selection.
>>>> Now press escape.
>>>> Now, without moving or pressing anything else; press the Applications
>>>> key.
>>>> Does the track recording inputs options menu come up; which reads:
>>>> Monitor Input; when you arrow down once?
>>>> I tested this method in 32 and 64 bits, with Window-Eyes and NVDA in
>>>> 32 bits, and NVDA in 64 bit Reaper, and it never failed to open the
>>>> recording inputs options menu with the applications key; and I'm
>>>> running Reaper version 4.32.
>>>>
>>>> The reason it works is that the sighted method for displaying that
>>>> menu is to right click with the mouse on the graphical arm track button.
>>>> When you tab to Record Arm; then select on or off with the spacebar;
>>>> then press enter, then press escape, that same graphical arm button is
>>>> in focus at that moment, so a click from the applications key displays
>>>> that menu; because the graphical arm button is still in focus; and a
>>>> click of the applications key acts the same as a right mouse click.
>>>> If you press any shortcuts or move anything that graphical track arm
>>>> button will no longer be in focus, so you may hear the annoying:
>>>> Handle of Track who is not message; when you press the applications key.
>>>> I don't think either the ctrl+up arrow or an Auto Hot Key shortcut is
>>>> required, and; as long as the sighted method of displaying this menu
>>>> is not changed, this should be breakproof with future versions.
>>>> By the way, when a sighted person right clicks that graphical track
>>>> arm button, which is the letter R on their screen, that icon actually
>>>> speaks something like Record ARM OFF ON, but for the life of me I
>>>> couldn't locate that graphical icon with Wineyes mouse pointer on the
>>>> screen, I think it'must be between recognized graphics.
>>>> Doesn't matter, if the method above works.
>>>> Indi
>>>>
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