[RWP] Best way to work with Reaper

Indigo 33indigo at charter.net
Fri Mar 1 09:51:26 EST 2013


Patrick, I just tried extending length of a midi item, with loop source 
checked; and it didn't work at first to force the original item to loop 
continuously throughout the new length; but when I went back to item 
properties, unchecked  then rechecked loop source; then the original 1 
measure item looped continuously for 120 measures.
I looked to make sure repeats were toggled off, and they were off.
I guess I did something that caused the increased length settings to 
apply; without knowing it.
So, once I get a little practice doing it, and understand why it didn't 
work right away; that's obviously the least hassle method.
Thanks for your kind help,
Indi


On 2/28/2013 11:56 PM, Indigo wrote:
> Wait, I think I had loop source checked in item properties, when I
> extended it's length.
> I'll need to affirm that.
> thanks,
> Indi
>
>
> On 2/28/2013 9:43 PM, Patrick Perdue wrote:
>> Have you tried just extending the length of the item in item properties
>> with "loop source" checked? I don't know if that works for midi, but it
>> does for audio. If you have, say, a four bar loop that you want to play
>> for 32 bars, just make sure "loop source" is checked, and change the
>> length from four to 32 bars. Then you have one item that loops 8 times
>> without copying and pasting. The way this works will change based on how
>> item timebase is set, I believe.
>>
>> I pretty much exclusively deal with audio in Reaper, not much of a midi
>> person in general, so don't know if that will actually work.
>>
>> On 2/28/2013 9:12 PM, Indigo wrote:
>>> Hi David,
>>> I think I solved my problem of a midi loop from Alchemy Player, with
>>> such rediculously long tails on the delay that if I made an audio track
>>> from it; the delay tails would be  chopped off suddenly in the audio
>>> track.
>>> The midi loop would repeat seamlessly with repeats toggled, because
>>> Alchemy Player was running, with its onboard delay.
>>> I chose to copy and paste the midi loop the entire length of my proposed
>>> song, then record an audio track from that; so I could fade down at the
>>> end of the audio track and not hear the eventual chopping off of the
>>> delay tails.
>>> The Cockos Wiki says to copy a midi loop; move back a little into the
>>> end of the midi loop; left click the mouse and drag to the end of the
>>> proposed song, then release the left mouse button; and the loop will
>>> copy itself as many times as required.
>>> Maybe you know a simpler method than copy item, go to end of previous
>>> loop, then paste
>>> That works quite well, but maybe somewhere there's a duplicate loop,
>>> with a number value to type in?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Indi
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/28/2013 2:34 PM, David P Shortland wrote:
>>>> Hi & Greetings from the first day of Autumn in Queensland
>>>>
>>>> I do not wish to muddy the waters with to much choice, but an another
>>>> way of moving an item around on the time line...
>>>>
>>>> 1 Navigate up and down to the required track
>>>> 2 Select the Item that needs to be moved
>>>> 3 Press Shift plus F2 ... This opens the Item Properties Dialog
>>>> 4 TAB thru the incredible list of parameters that can be changed
>>>>
>>>> First on the list is Position...
>>>>
>>>> Be aware however, that this Dialog defaults to TIME, just TAB down
>>>> twice
>>>> and you will find TIME or BEATS, use whichever you prefer...
>>>>
>>>> There is also a Volume parameter in the list which can also be adjusted
>>>> to taste, I use this to set an overall volume for that particular
>>>> item... that way the Volume knob can be used for overall mix...
>>>>
>>>> Reaper is so good to use...
>>>>
>>>> Take care
>>>>
>>>> David P Shortland
>>>> DragonScore Productions
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Crystal Dennis
>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 8:44 PM
>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Best way to work with Reaper
>>>>
>>>> This helps so much!  Thanks a ton :)  I can't wait to have time to
>>>> play with Reaper now that I know what I'm supposed to be doing.
>>>>
>>>> Crystal
>>>>
>>>> On 2/28/13, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>>>>> Oh, I forgot to say that you have a track volume at your tab key in
>>>>> track view.
>>>>> Just arrow up or down to the track to select it, then tab down to
>>>>> volume
>>>>> equals 0.00, or whatever it is, and set it with your arrows for single
>>>>> tenths of db's, or with the page up and down for larger increments, or
>>>>> home and end for blasting you out or absolute silence. smile.
>>>>> Always press enter after making changes in values to save them; and
>>>>> return to track view.
>>>>> Actually, while your track is playing, press J for a VU meter to
>>>>> display
>>>>> the volume of the left channel and K for a VU meter to display volume
>>>>> for  the right channel.
>>>>> You can set peak values, or other ways to read the meters, can't
>>>>> remember where to set that right now.
>>>>> If you google the word cockos, then reaper, then a few words about a
>>>>> problem, you will either get Reaper forums with plenty of posts on
>>>>> your
>>>>> same issue, or the Cockos Wiki, which is a collection of very nice
>>>>> documents, which, even though they are for sighted users,have
>>>>> plenty of
>>>>> useful info.
>>>>> Indi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/27/2013 10:47 PM, Crystal Dennis wrote:
>>>>>> Thank you Indigo!  That helped So so so much :)  The copy and pasting
>>>>>> part is what I was  missing.  The recording guide helps too!  I am
>>>>>> going to try this as soon as I have free recording time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another question though:  If you want to add effects or lower/raise
>>>>>> the volume of the vocal or karaoke track, would you do that on the
>>>>>> track before you copy/pasted it to the other track?  And how do you
>>>>>> access the effects in general.  I've been having trouble with that.
>>>>>> I hope that made sense.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Crystal
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/27/13, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Moving tracks around is meant to be easy in Reaper, just like
>>>>>>> using a
>>>>>>> word processer, with standard copy, cut and paste shortcuts.
>>>>>>> When you import a track, do you want it to begin at 000, or
>>>>>>> somewhere
>>>>>>> else on a particular track's timeline?
>>>>>>> If you want to string imported tracks along a timeline, one after
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> other, you can import them onto their own track.
>>>>>>> Then arrow to the just imported track with your up down arrows; then
>>>>>>> select the imported track's item with shift+A; then press ctrl+C
>>>>>>> charlie
>>>>>>> to cut it to the Windows clipboard.
>>>>>>> Then arrow up or down to the track where you want to paste the
>>>>>>> imported
>>>>>>> track.
>>>>>>> ; arrow left or right to the place on the timeline you want the
>>>>>>> imported
>>>>>>> track to begin; , and press ctrl+V victor to paste it onto that
>>>>>>> track;
>>>>>>> exactly where the cursor is located when you paste
>>>>>>> Remember, you always need to select a track by arrowing to it, and
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> also need to select that track's item with shift+A; then cut or copy
>>>>>>> that item to the clipboard, then arrow up down to the destination
>>>>>>> track;
>>>>>>> then left right arrow to the destination location; then paste the
>>>>>>> item
>>>>>>> at that point.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just in case, you learn to love Reaper, and prefer to record on it;
>>>>>>> here
>>>>>>> are the basic instructions I just provided for my son for simple
>>>>>>> vocal
>>>>>>> recording:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Insert a track for vocal recording with ctrl+T tom.
>>>>>>> You select a track by arrowing up or down to it.
>>>>>>> Arrow to track 1.
>>>>>>>    With a microphone in your preAmp; tab down to arm for recording,
>>>>>>> select on with your spacebar; then press enter to save your
>>>>>>> recording
>>>>>>> settings; which are specific for that selected track.
>>>>>>> You will be returned to track view after saving track settings.
>>>>>>> Press the letter R and recording begins.
>>>>>>> Press R again; or press your spacebar to stop recording.
>>>>>>> Press W to rewind to beginning of the track, or you can rewind with
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> home key.
>>>>>>> Press the spacebar to play your recording.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now, if you want to make a second track, or more after that, always
>>>>>>> arrow up to the previously recorded track; ; to select it.
>>>>>>> , Then tab down to arm for recording; and select off with your
>>>>>>> spacebar.
>>>>>>> Then press enter to save that track's recording settings; and you
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> return to track view.
>>>>>>> Then arm the next track you want to record  with the same method you
>>>>>>> used for the previously recorded track.
>>>>>>> If you forget to disarm the previously recorded track, you will
>>>>>>> record
>>>>>>> over the material you just recorded on the previously recorded
>>>>>>> track.
>>>>>>> All these tracks will begin at 000, the beginning of the first
>>>>>>> measure,
>>>>>>> or the beginning of the recording time, and will be perfectly
>>>>>>> aligned
>>>>>>> with each other.
>>>>>>> Hope this helps,
>>>>>>> Indi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2/27/2013 8:15 PM, Crystal Dennis wrote:
>>>>>>>> This may be a stupid question, but everytime I've tried to play
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> Reaper, I import tracks into the program and try to move them
>>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>> with the controls (with no success).  I've been recording in
>>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>>> program, then trying to line up my tracks in Reaper, which is my
>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>> multi-track mixer.  I was just wondering, since I am fairly new to
>>>>>>>> mixing the multi-track way, should I just try recording in Reaper
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> my track playing instead  of importing?  Would that be easier for a
>>>>>>>> Reaper newbie to play with, or am I just not using Reaper right in
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> first place and should startsomewhere else.  I feel like I'm
>>>>>>>> missing
>>>>>>>> something major in terms of multi-track mixing, because everytime I
>>>>>>>> try to do something small like select a track and move it nothing
>>>>>>>> happens.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any help with any of these issues would be greatly appreciated!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Crystal
>>>>>>>>
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