[RWP] Groove Boxes, was Original Music

Indigo 33indigo at charter.net
Wed Jun 26 06:49:51 EDT 2013


Any Daw, like Sonar, Reaper, you begin by enabling your sound card for 
audio and midi.
Then there are rules about the tracks.
You select a track by arrowing up or down to it.
To Record you must arm a track.
Please tell us what sound card you will use  for audio and midi.
How much of this have you done already in Reaper?
Indi

On 6/26/2013 5:28 AM, Stephan Merk wrote:
> Hi,
>
> this are interesting thoughts about Groove Boxes. But I ask by myself if
> there is a way to create drum patterns and loop them in Reaper. So my
> personal problem is as follows:
>
> The MPC is based on use like a drum machine. So I have the strictly
> pre-defined workflow: Creating sequences (vs. patterns) with several tracks,
> mix them to create a song. The same like my old Roland TR-505 or Korg
> DDM-110, DDD-1 and so on. By the way, on DDD-1 I created a song based on
> cowbells and bass lines with the maximum of 14 pads. ;)
>
> In Reaper, or other musician programs, I am a little confused about the main
> window, the tracks and don't know what I can do or how I can start. So I
> have many things to learn. ;)
>
>
> Viele Grüße
>
> --
> Stephan Merk, www.merkst.de
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of T.Reid
> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 5:37 PM
> To: 'Reapers Without Peepers'
> Subject: Re: [RWP] Groove Boxes, was Original Music
>
> Regarding Poise, I've been exchanging messages with Shannon, the developer.
> He is very interested in making the product more accessible. It's usable
> with the Jaws cursor since many of the options are accessible from right
> clicks on the graphic.
>
> I had a little sighted assistance to make a few HSC spots  which move to a
> pad and right click allowing me to paste a sample onto a pad...
>
> Shannon is planning on downloading Jaws and possibly other screen readers to
> see exactly how they respond. He is also making some changes now like
> putting pad dependent features in the right click menu.
>
> For me it is already worth the 50 bucks, but after some additional access
> enhancements I think it will be a no brainer.
>
> t
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Indigo
> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 9:36 AM
> To: Reapers Without Peepers
> Subject: [RWP] Groove Boxes, was Original Music
>
> I think that's right, the simple way Reaper works is like a groove box in
> many ways.
> Yesterday, I found a groove box VST plug called CereDrum.
> Do you know that one?
> It's free, has a sequencer, 4 drum kits to choose among; plus a bass
> synthesizer.
> I haven't had an opportunity to try it yet, but I might get lucky and find
> it to be in text.
> Actually, my Casio XW-G1 keyboard is exactly like running a groove box; very
> much like the old Roland MC-505 and MC-307 I had previously; but easier than
> they were.
> There is a 16 pad VST sample player called Poise; that was written by a long
> time MPC user, that does most of what the Akai MPC does.
> You can drag/drop or paste samples, loops, anything onto its 16 virtual
> pads, and assign the pads to keyboard keys, hardware pads, whatever.
> Unfortunately, its screen graphics are not labeled; otherwise it would be
> easy to run.
>
> CereDrum doesn't play samples; unless you can maybe substitute your own
> samples for its onboard drum kits, but I'll post a link to CereDrum if it's
> accessible.
> Indi
>
>
>
> On 6/24/2013 1:30 PM, Stephan Merk wrote:
>> No, I can use a 6x lens and I can see the cursor position. Amazing is
>> that the cursor has fixed positions so you can count by pressing the
> cursor keys.
>> If you go left, you will reach the top left of the screen and keep
>> this position. The same while walking with Cursor right to bottom
>> right. So it gives me the real feel of a real hardware device but with
>> much more power and benefits.
>>
>> I connected Akai on this because if the display of the MPC could be
>> mirrored as a text window on the computer, it would be accessible
>> because most elements are text-based. The software itself which you
>> can alternatively use is full graphical, with NVDA you have no access.
>>
>> I think that this workflow in general is useful for those who know the
>> old hardware sequencers without any overdozed interfaces.
>>
>>
>> Viele Grüße
>>
>> --
>> Stephan Merk, www.merkst.de
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Indigo
>> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 6:11 PM
>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Original Music
>>
>> Stephan, have you used the MPC without sight?
>>
>> Those are very interesting to me, especially now that they finally got
>> 24 bit samples, but I haven't met any blind users of the Akai MPC.
>>
>> I have wanted to buy the Native Instruments Maschine, but think it may
>> be not so easy to run without being able to constantly look at the screen.
>> I know for certain that some selections in Maschine must be made from
>> the screen, such as browsing to samples to load them I don't think I
>> could even get samples loaded onto pads.
>> How much do you need to do in the Akai MPC that would be easier with
>> sight, or is it also impossible without seeing?
>> Thanks,
>> Indi.
>>
>> On 6/24/2013 10:27 AM, Stephan Merk wrote:
>>> Brian,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> this is helpful as well, because I forgot the fact about the scripts
>>> which are available. ;-) That means in general that some guys made
>>> thoughts about making it accessible. This I think does the ReaAccess
>>> project as well, but AFAIK the scripts for Sonar are not for free, so
>>> they have a commercial touch or in other words, the functionality is
>>> more
>> expected.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As I have seen and my hope is, that I can use Reaper as a MIDI
>>> sequencer for my new VST instruments. If this works as I expect, it
>>> is enough for me. I’d never played around with audio mixing and
>>> syncing audio tracks with MIDI and so on. I like the workflow of my
>>> MPC, that’s it
>> like I know from the 80ies.
>>> ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Viele Grüße
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Stephan Merk, www.merkst.de
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Brian Casey
>>> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 3:21 PM
>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Original Music
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That is hard to say,  because I rely on sonar to make my living in my
>>> studio, it is the daw that I know best by far, and I also use the
>>> CakeTalking scripts, so I don't have the most balanced opinion on the
>>> matter.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Others have opinions on which is better and why, but really I am just
>>> used to sonar and the plug-ins that come with it, and I don't have
>>> time to fully
>>>
>>> investigate reaper and I don't have the time to find out if I can do
>>> all the same things as quickly with reaper.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry, that's not very helpful but I don't want to go telling someone
>>> sonar is better or worse when I don't know reaper fully,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I do think sonar might have better synths that come with the producer
>>> version, but access to those depends on using CakeTalking, jSonar
>>> scripts or some other HSC sets.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>> Brian.
>>>
>>> From: Stephan Merk <mailto:dl7fos at hotmail.com>
>>>
>>> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 2:13 PM
>>>
>>> To: 'Reapers Without Peepers' <mailto:rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Original Music
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Brian,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> what do you think is on Sonar better? I read sometimes that blind
>>> people using Sonar but I didn’t tried it out, too expensive for my
>>> needs. ;) However, Sonar is Cakewaalk and they purchased the Voyetra
>>> Sequencing products which I was using 20 years ago… ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Viele Grüße
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Stephan Merk, www.merkst.de
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: RWP [ <mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com>
>>> mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Brian Casey
>>> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 2:18 PM
>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Original Music
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've posted these tracks on the midi mag list before, but heres my
>>> sound cloud with some original material I finished recently,, 95% of
>>> the instrumentation etc is me, and I did all the mixing also. Its all
>>> done in sonar though because I'm still afraid of reaper!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.soundcloud.com/briancaseymusic
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I appreciate any listens greatly,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Brian.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Jim Snowbarger <mailto:Snowman at SnowmanRadio.com>
>>>
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 5:47 AM
>>>
>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers <mailto:rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>
>>> Subject: [RWP] Original Music
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey, let's each one of us who can, contribute a link to a recording
>>> of a song that we actually wrote ourselves, and primarily, and
>>> hopefully entirely, performed.  One track per person.  Pick a track
>>> that really says you, and throw it in the pot.  Let's find out who we
>>> are
> musically.
>>>
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