[RWP] Strings and stuff, was Re: My metronome question

Patrick Perdue patrick at pdaudio.net
Tue Jun 25 11:46:48 EDT 2013


It's OK. She's on this list (or, she was at one point,) so she might see 
this message anyway.

On 6/25/2013 11:34 AM, Indigo wrote:
> Don't remind your sister in law about the guitar, she'll have to face
> the painful fact that she'll never touch it again.
>
> On 6/25/2013 11:30 AM, Patrick Perdue wrote:
>> I played a Moog sustainer guitar a few months ago at the Moog showroom
>> in Ashville. It's like having twelve built-in E-bows, as you have two
>> magnetic fields for each string, with piezos that listen to the
>> individual strings, and intelligently figures out which one you're
>> fretting at the time to determine which string should be sustained, or
>> you can just have them all sustain at once. Tons of harmonic
>> possibilities. This is combined with a set of hum bucking pick-ups. You
>> can blend the piezo and magnetic output as well.
>> It even does electro-magnetic envelope curves, starting with the initial
>> attack of the string. Really fun to play, and, of course, not cheap. I
>> think the baby one started at a bit over $2000, and they went as high as
>> 6 or 7 grand.
>> I'm also not much of a guitarist, though I am practicing more now that I
>> have a good electric to play with, in this case, an Epiphone ES-339 pro,
>> and a Schecter diamond series guitar that my sister-in-law left here
>> almost 8 years ago, and hasn't wanted back yet.
>>
>> On 6/25/2013 10:08 AM, Indigo wrote:
>>> I can't easily get 10 strings, but don't care so much how many strings
>>> it has, 6 is enough.
>>> What I'd really like is a virtual Chapman Stick; with just a touch
>>> sensing fretboard; no strings at all, and USB out transmitting note
>>> data, but haven't found  such an interface anywhere.
>>> I'm no kind of real guitarist, but I love limited playing, finger
>>> picking with partial capos, alternative tunings, and drumming on
>>> strings, as if it was just another keyboard layout.
>>> I have some large diameter timber bamboo.
>>> I was thinking of slicing off the sides of the electric guitar body,
>>> opening up the center of what's left of the body, glueing half of a big
>>> section of bamboo onto the bottom as a resonator chamber
>>> I can't remember who was the guitarist; Michael Brooks maybe; who built
>>> the Infinite Guitar, with a magnetic device that buzzed the strings to
>>> keep them sustaining endlessly; similar to a built in E-Bow.
>>> I have a small but very powerful speaker driver that I could put in the
>>> bottom end down in the bamboo; just below the strings.
>>> I could feed that speaker with the output of the amp and; I think, get
>>> an endless feedback going that would keep the strings sustaining
>>> forever.
>>> Indi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/24/2013 6:08 PM, Patrick Perdue wrote:
>>>> I want a Chapman Stick, but can't afford one, so I'm interested in what
>>>> you end up doing. Those guys are awesome enough to own stick.com, so
>>>> that in and of itself is just cool.
>>>>
>>>> On 6/24/2013 5:55 PM, Indigo wrote:
>>>>> Patrick, after you told us about the piezo speakers in holiday cards,
>>>>> I've been saving those, but this time I need about 12 of the same
>>>>> thing,
>>>>> to mount a tiny distance below each of 6 strings; probably near the
>>>>> bridge and about halfway along the string length.
>>>>> I'm going to massacre a Korean V M I electric guitar to make a sort of
>>>>> chapman stick thingy, so I can happily drum on its fret board
>>>>> I'll probably saw off both sides of the body so it's a real stick
>>>>> guitar.
>>>>> I expect the guitarist here are cringing in horror, but believe me
>>>>> this
>>>>> one will be  no loss to the guitar world as a conventional guitar, and
>>>>> could make a great Chapmanesque stick.
>>>>> Either piezo electrics, or I could compare their cost to a single
>>>>> really
>>>>> great humbucker pickup.
>>>>> Anybody got one of those they'd sell me?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Indi
>>>>> On 6/24/2013 1:24 PM, Patrick Perdue wrote:
>>>>>> Radio Shack used to cell piezos in little plastic enclosures meant
>>>>>> to be
>>>>>> used as small buzzer speakers. Take it out of the plastic and have
>>>>>> fun.
>>>>>> Maybe they still do.
>>>>>> I have some piezos that are just exposed on one side with a plastic
>>>>>> backing on the other side, with a thin cable leading to a 1/4th jack.
>>>>>> Ultra-generic pick-ups with little clip mounts with screw
>>>>>> holes/adhesive
>>>>>> backing to attach the jack's housing to instruments.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To keep this on topic, you should always play your metronome
>>>>>> through a
>>>>>> piezo transducer. Yeah. That. Don't use your mailbox as a vocal
>>>>>> microphone, as fun as it may seem at the time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/24/2013 1:15 PM, Indigo wrote:
>>>>>>> Thanks, Patrick.
>>>>>>> I've been mostly experimenting and learning recently, so haven't
>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>> using metronome, but think I will soon.
>>>>>>> Did you see my post asking you about piezo transducers to go under
>>>>>>> guitar strings?
>>>>>>> I don't mean commercial piezo pickups to place inside a guitar tone
>>>>>>> hole
>>>>>>> or under a bridge, hopefully a tiny not costly piezo transducer I
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> afford to buy a dozen of, Radio Shack, online, whatever.
>>>>>>> I'd like them to pick up the least drumming or touch of each string,
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> not pick up room sounds like a microphone.
>>>>>>> Got any ideas?
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Indi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/24/2013 12:35 PM, Patrick Perdue wrote:
>>>>>>>> If you want the metronome to be turned on by default for a new
>>>>>>>> project
>>>>>>>> (metronome settings are saved in projects, not in Reaper's global
>>>>>>>> settings,) open a new project, turn the metronome on, then go to
>>>>>>>> file >
>>>>>>>> project settings, or press alt+enter to get to the same dialogue.
>>>>>>>> Now,
>>>>>>>> press the "save as default project settings..." button. Now, when
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> open a new Reaper project, your metronome will already be
>>>>>>>> active. If
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> change the metronome sound or volume, these settings will also be
>>>>>>>> saved.
>>>>>>>> For example, I changed the stock metronome sounds to those of the
>>>>>>>> two
>>>>>>>> square waves from the Casio VL-tone 1's drum section, just to be a
>>>>>>>> bit
>>>>>>>> different.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can, of course, make any other change you want to your new
>>>>>>>> project
>>>>>>>> before saving as default project settings. If, for example, you
>>>>>>>> always
>>>>>>>> want to start with four audio tracks and four midi tracks routed in
>>>>>>>> specific ways, you can set that up first, then save that as your
>>>>>>>> default
>>>>>>>> loading template. Then those tracks will be there when you open a
>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>> project.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 6/24/2013 11:58 AM, Indigo wrote:
>>>>>>>>> There is a toggle metronome in the ReaAccess shortcuts,.
>>>>>>>>> It's something plus the letter M.
>>>>>>>>> Press F12 to turn Learn Mode on and check out the ReaAccess
>>>>>>>>> shortcuts.
>>>>>>>>> Press F12 again to return to normal mode.
>>>>>>>>> I just enable the metronome in options menu, haven't got it to
>>>>>>>>> toggle on
>>>>>>>>> and off when I want.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Indi
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 6/24/2013 9:15 AM, Stephan Merk wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> my question regarding the metronome was not answered till now, if
>>>>>>>>>> I am
>>>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>>>> in this... ;)
>>>>>>>>>> I asked if there is a chance to set the metronome on in
>>>>>>>>>> general so
>>>>>>>>>> that I
>>>>>>>>>> not ever have to turn it on after I am starting Reaper...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Viele Grüße
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Stephan Merk, www.merkst.de
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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