[RWP] question
Chris Belle
cb1963 at sbcglobal.net
Wed Jun 19 11:11:06 EDT 2013
Well, that's when I'm being really fussy, and I have a singer who is very
very dynamic.
Like I'll get between words, and take breaths down, and even take the
sibalance sounds down instead of deessing
because of the tonal changes sometimes.
And it only takes a few minutes to hit applications key s to drop a change
in sonar.
So I can do it quickly.
But conversely if you want to do clip based editing in sonar, it's a big
pain you have to use the split tool, and you have to do several moves to
know exactly where you are, reaper's scrubbing is on all the time and you
can do 0 crossings with the z or shift z key.
That's why I kept clip based editing to a minum with sonar,
because it was so round about for us to do, even with cake talking.
I was reading in the ct manual yesterday and I thought, man this is one area
where reaper shines.
Too bad we can't combine the two daws, well in a way we can with re-wire,
but you know have the best feature of each.
I like to do item or clip based editing after I've applied my compressors
and such because if you change an item gain then you change how your hitting
your compressor on the track where as when you do automation you don't.
That's why I prefer automation to item based editing
or clip based editing when I'm mixing.
But for correcting timing, or slotting in a tricky part, it's the only way
to fly.
One thing I've gotten caught out on was when gluing splits back together
sometimes reaper gets confused about the volume changes and a clip down
stream will inherit volume changes you set for a previous clip,
I glued 4 items together and this happened to me and I said what the hell
and tried it again, and that time things went correctly, so who knows,
but I'm going to keep after it and get reasonably comfortable with reaper,
as much as it will allow equivalence with sonar,
in some ways I'm comparing apples to oranges,
and it's not fair comparing the two, but a few more months should help out a
lot.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Chesworth" <scottchesworth at gmail.com>
To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: [RWP] question
> Pro Tools acts the same way with automation with things returning to
> their pre-automated state after you've written a change. Granted, the
> thing where Reaper is trying to fill between automation if you don't
> work through the timeline in series does sound like madness yup. I
> don't really have the experience to figure out what's going on with
> that, sorry man. Item volume changes work here because I'm only
> dealing with nudging instruments and vocals up a few DB for extra
> impact etc, but yeah, definitely not a conducive workflow to achieve
> what you're describing. I honestly can't imagine having the time or
> patience to write a hundred moves to a vocal track lol.
>
> Scott
>
> On 6/19/13, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> Right, I just found that.
>>
>> When in doubt, go poking in the configuration settings, works every time
>> 'grin'.
>>
>> Thank you kindly.
>>
>> I've been poking around with automation trying to get sonar like behavior
>> with snapshots that stay put, and so far I can only make this work if I
>> work
>>
>> in series, but if I go back and insert an envelope point, it'll try and
>> fill between the two points.
>>
>> I thought I'd fixed that by going to touch mode, but not so after all.
>>
>> More reaper madness.
>>
>> By the way, I asked our buddy Ross how cubass acts,
>> he says automation stays put how you set it till you change it again.
>>
>> So which daws act like reaper, you'd mentioned other daws did this too,
>> or
>> somebody did.
>>
>> That just seems nuts to me.
>>
>> But I guess it's all in how you like to work.
>>
>> I guess for now each time I wanted to insert an automation point prior to
>> another one, I could render the track and start over with automation.
>>
>> Or fall back on item split volume changes.
>>
>> But that's so aggressive for doing volume changes,
>> I might have as many as a hundred moves on a dynamic vocal track and to
>> have
>>
>> to slice up that many times well, you get the idea.
>>
>> And even with reaper's great crossfading,
>> you still need to hit the 0 crossing sometimes to get things to sound
>> good
>> and not click,
>> and usually you can get a 0 crossing point very close to where you want
>> to
>> change an item volume, but not always.
>>
>> I've seen it be as much as a quarter second up or down stream.
>>
>> Oh well,
>> back to the grindstone.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Scott Chesworth" <scottchesworth at gmail.com>
>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 8:35 AM
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] question
>>
>>
>>> If you don't want Reaper to move you to the end of whatever you've
>>> just pasted or inserted onto a track, that's easily fixed. In
>>> preferences, go down to Editing Behaviour in the tree view, and
>>> uncheck the Move edit cursor when pasting/inserting media setting.
>>>
>>> Hth someone
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/18/13, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>> Reaper for some strange reason always lands you at the end of the file,
>>>> did
>>>> you hit home and spacebar to make sure?
>>>> or w?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Doug Oliver
>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 11:40 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] question
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ah ok, now when I've imported them for some reason they won't play.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Chris Belle
>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 10:39 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] question
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You really don't want to edit mp3s,
>>>> you can import them just like a wav file, but when you render them
>>>> back
>>>> you are rendering a lossy format and you will loose quality.
>>>>
>>>> But the answer is yes, if you really want to.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Doug Oliver
>>>> To: rwp at reaaccess.com
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 10:24 AM
>>>> Subject: [RWP] question
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> hello everyone, I'm a new user to reaper, and wanted to know
>>>> is
>>>> there a way to edit mp3 files in reaper? as I wanted to be able to
>>>> apply
>>>> different affects to them.
>>>> Let me know?
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Doug
>>>>
>>>>
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