[RWP] NVDA AddOns for OCR and support for DoubleTalk, TripleTalk, DecTalk and more
Gordon Kent
dbmusic at cybernex.net
Sat Jun 8 02:00:07 EDT 2013
Hi:
Well, I have to say that the ocr is pretty cool. To use it effectively you
should have the vApps bundle installed, vMouse and vTurbo. With the mouse
tethered to the object cursor, I was able to open the browser in synth
master and select categories for searching. There is a lot of other stuff
that is visible too. I think it works as well as jaws's ocr does and since
it will only perform the ocr on the window that has the focused object you
want, nothing else gets in the way.
Gord
-----Original Message-----
From: Alex H.
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 5:04 AM
To: Reapers Without Peepers
Subject: Re: [RWP] NVDA AddOns for OCR and support for DoubleTalk,
TripleTalk, DecTalk and more
Hi,
Recabinet is a guitar / bass speaker emulation plugin. One of my favorites.
www.recabi.net
Agreed about OCR. It's trying the best it can, given certain rules. It
would probably work a bit better if the engine was of higher quality,
and there were rule s ets for particular fonts or graphics, such as
plugins vs scanned PDF's, etc. The lines get blurred rather quickly
doing that however. :)
Alex
On 6/6/13, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
> Alex, can I ask what is Recabinet you mention?
> I've had the same experience with several OCR's.
> One PDF manual I tried an OCR on had a bunch of photos of the product;
> surrounded with short instruction phrases on how to use each button or
> control, with arrows pointing to the button, switch or knob.
> What could the OCR do, it stacked up the instruction phrases, topmost
> first; but all the association with what they were originally pointing
> to was lost.
> The arrows were just straight lines with an arrow head at the end, no
> way for an non-smart OCR to tell what that symbol meant.
> If you or I felt that symbol or graphic in raised form; with a raised
> form of the gadget; we'd immediately trace down the arrow toward the
> point to try to find what the arrow pointed to, but that's part of the
> huge amount of association in every human mind.
> Of course, even if the OCR was smart enough to look where the arrow
> pointed, the switch or button on the photo of the gadget was bit map,
> and at all kinds of viewing angles; making its pixel outline different
> at each viewing angle; an impossibly complex job for a simple OCR.
> You could instruct an OCR to know what the pixel outline of each switch
> or button was in that particular manual, but it's that old difficulty of
> artificial intelligence; that a computer tends to only know what it's
> been told by a human; then sorts quickly through previously entered
> instructions for the best fit.
> Just using mechanical eyes; without the brain's enormous bank of
> associations; is very limited in what it can tell us, but way better
> than nothing, for sure.
> OCR's will be as good as human sighted help when we enter all possible
> human experience into them; plus update them constantly as humans gain
> new experience.
> Indi
> .
>
> ?
>
> On 6/5/2013 1:58 PM, Alex H. wrote:
>> Yes, that OCR is handy for perusing plug UI's. Not the most coherent,
>> as some of it gets pretty garbled, but that's OCR in other ATs, not
>> just with NVDA from what I've experienced.
>>
>> I used that to put the mouse where I needed and then assign AHK
>> hotspots for Recabinet.
>>
>> Alex
>>
>> On 6/5/13, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>>> Here are user-written addOns for NVDA, including an OCR, plus support
>>> for many old hardware speech synths.
>>> I grabbed the OCR myself
>>> The website explains where in tools to put addOns.
>>>
>>> http://stormdragon.us/nvda/
>>>
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