[RWP] Can it be; Things Seem to Run more Reliably on NVDA?

Chris Belle cb1963 at sbcglobal.net
Fri Jun 7 21:09:03 EDT 2013 

Thanks for the clarification mr. Monster.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "TheOreoMonster" <monkeypusher69 at gmail.com>
To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 6:05 PM
Subject: Re: [RWP] Can it be; Things Seem to Run more Reliably on NVDA?


> Mini's are the only ones that still have fw ports. If you plan to do audio 
> production i wouldn't recommend an air unless you go top of the line. the 
> Mini server or any mac book pro would be a great starting point for 
> something u can also use as a DAW. You will have to get an FW to 
> thunderbolt cable though if u don't get a mini.
> On Jun 7, 2013, at 6:08 PM, "Chris Belle" <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> I use both, what-ever is called for.
>>
>> I don't make a religion out of browsers or screen-readers, or daw's for 
>> that matter.
>>
>> That's the problem everyone I know seems to jump in to a camp and I think 
>> me and Roy are the only ones who use everything.
>>
>> Surely we can't be the only ones.
>>
>> Well you know what I mean, nobody can use everything, but seriously 
>> folks, the only way to have it all is to use all the tools and to use 
>> each tool for what it does best.
>>
>> Most tools will be great at some things but suck at other stuff.
>>
>> Even in sub categories of tools like browsers, or email programs, or 
>> anything,
>> nobody gets it 100 percent.
>>
>> So the only thing I lack now in my arsenal is a mac.
>>
>> I'll have to ask my little genius friend Patrick what he recommends for 
>> an entry level mac, should I spring for a mini or go with a mac book air?
>>
>> I'm not so sweet on the mac now that they've cut corners on the hardware 
>> and boot camping with sonar gives high dpc latencies and cakewalk doesn't 
>> support or recomend it anymore after the 09 series.
>>
>> But then again, if you want a hotdog windows machine, buy a hotdog 
>> windows machine from someone like studiocat, don't but a mac and expect 
>> it to run windows the best, that's just an after thought.
>>
>> I definitely would want one with firewire for my mackie onyx mixer.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>> Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 12:15 PM
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Can it be; Things Seem to Run more Reliably on NVDA?
>>
>>
>>> I can't face going back to Internet Explorer after so many years with 
>>> FireFox.
>>> Last time I tried IE I couldn't even type into its search box.
>>> The trouble is this is such a rare thing; FireFox causing a loss of 
>>> beeps in NVDA, there's no use to google for a fix.
>>>
>>> We have some of the people who use that combination here, and none of us 
>>> apparently know what to do.
>>> Mozilla won't know.
>>> I just can't imagine any setting in FireFox that could cause such a 
>>> change.
>>> Indi
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/7/2013 1:03 PM, Monkey Pusher wrote:
>>>> From what you describing its more like the IE interface changed and
>>>> the screen readers weren't updated to work with the new interface,
>>>> maybe cuz they couldn't  find a way to grab the info in the new
>>>> interface.
>>>>
>>>> On 6/7/13, Pradip Chandra Sikdar <pradeepsikdar at musician.org> wrote:
>>>>> I think, FF has broken something for us which is stopping NVDA to 
>>>>> beep.
>>>>> In IE 8, we can get some short of feedback from our screen reader 
>>>>> about
>>>>> how much the page has loaded. but in IE 9 and IE 10, we cannot hear
>>>>> anything, even if you check the status bar. someday ago, my friend
>>>>> recommended me to install "Classic Shell IE" and now I am getting the
>>>>> progress announcement in percentage on my IE 10.
>>>>> On 07-06-2013 03:55 PM, Indigo wrote:
>>>>>> Oh, those dreaded words, size doesn't matter!
>>>>>> Let's say, in certain instances, like screenreaders; small and light
>>>>>> really helps.
>>>>>> I've got totally addicted to doing the NVDA+numPad enter, that acts 
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> a right click on certain selections at the arrow keys.
>>>>>> So intuitive.
>>>>>> Since you know NVDA, I cannot for the life of me figure out how I 
>>>>>> lost
>>>>>> the spoken percentage and ascenting beeps as I download online.
>>>>>> I still get those offline, or when I download from MidiMag, but not
>>>>>> online in FireFox 21.
>>>>>> I think maybe FireFox 21 somehow broke the beeps, but I also upgraded
>>>>>> to version 2013 of NVDA at the same time, and can't find a setting
>>>>>> either in FireFox or NVDA to get that audible download percentage 
>>>>>> back.
>>>>>> Got any ideas?
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Indi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/7/2013 4:39 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>>>>>> That's not what she said :P
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But yeah, I agree, the combo of Reaper and NVDA feeling so 
>>>>>>> lightweight
>>>>>>> and snappy makes a real difference here every day. FWIW, the
>>>>>>> experience is as good with System Access too. Whenever I return to 
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> other DAW, it feels like wading through mud for the first few hours 
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> a session.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/7/13, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Last night I finally got my $12 joystick GamePad to midi learn 
>>>>>>>> synth
>>>>>>>> parameters; so I could wobble bass; or radically mangle an arpeggio 
>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>> tweaking filter cutoff and filter freq on X and Y axes of a 
>>>>>>>> joystick;
>>>>>>>> but here's the weird thing.
>>>>>>>> I had no success with the Window-Eyes I had tried it with before; 
>>>>>>>> so I
>>>>>>>> switched to NVDA on my XP music computer; and suddenly everything 
>>>>>>>> fell
>>>>>>>> into place.
>>>>>>>> It can't be simply lower CPU load, since the music daw it's on is a
>>>>>>>> second generation I7 2600, with way more power than Reaper needs, 
>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>> like NVDA is simply friendlier to utilities in certain situations.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, I'm sure NVDA boosts my confidence, since I've got totally
>>>>>>>> spoiled
>>>>>>>> with its quickness of response after key presses; on this little 
>>>>>>>> $380
>>>>>>>> AMD machine I use online; so that it makes the older; larger
>>>>>>>> screenreaders seem clunky by comparison.
>>>>>>>> Yea for the small; yea for the user-written; and yea for the guys 
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> Australia that got tired of paying out hundreds of dollars and
>>>>>>>> struggling with crashes with their former big corporation
>>>>>>>> screenreaders.
>>>>>>>> Small is beautiful.
>>>>>>>> Indi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>> --
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Pradip Chandra Sikdar
>>>>> Director of Clavier Productions <http://clavierproductions.com>
>>>>> Keyboard Player, Composer & Sound Editor of X-RaF 
>>>>> <http://www.x-raf.com>
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