[RWP] Can it be; Things Seem to Run more Reliably on NVDA?

Indigo 33indigo at charter.net
Fri Jun 7 17:36:17 EDT 2013


Thank you, Alex, I'll get that FF addOn.
I think NVDA will  soon get a screen view at the number pad exactly like 
Jaws and Window-Eyes have, so you can navigate left and right, up and 
down the actual plug interface or webPage; same as in Jaws and Wineyes, 
just like reading a text page in a word processor.
In addition will keep its object navigation scheme, you'll choose which 
you need at the moment.
It doesn't need to be off screen modeling, it'll be screen mirroring, 
don't know whether I coined that term or not.
I find improvements in every NVDA version.
I put up with little inconveniences, like I don't get any confirmation 
that it has gone to the next page of google hits, but all that will come 
in time.
This version now parks itself back at the opening link; after you exit 
a webPage.
Wineyes used to do that, but lost it, or IE and Firefox lost it, years 
ago, now NVDA got it back.
Annoying to have the online cursor jump back to the top of the page when 
I exit a webpage, then need to arrow or tab down to where I previously 
was in the list of links.
NVDA 2013  still shows a difference in where a link is at the arrow keys 
and at the tab key.
I'll click on a link at the arrow keys; but it doesn't respond, then tab 
down once and there's the actual link.
It's okay, I know how to work around it, but it'll eventually get fixed.
These little annoying inconveniences don't stop me from surfing fast as 
lightening with NVDA and Firefox; they're just like life itself, not 
perfect; but we get on with it anyway.
Can't blame it all on NVDA, the web lost a lot of its smoothness when 
websites were rewritten for mobile devices, and had to include large 
sections for FaceBook and Twitter.
Thanks,
Indi


On 6/7/2013 3:57 PM, Alex H. wrote:
> Get the Status-4-Evar  addon which does almost nothing for us, but
> does bring visual loading and a status bar back for NVDA to beep in
> FF. Had it in there so long I forgot it was there, and had to look.
>
> Agree, NVDA is a lot faster than those other solutions. Not saying
> it's more powerful, but people can always start hacking in python to
> bring some of that packing power. Just a thought. :)
>
> Alex
>
> On 6/7/13, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>> Thanks.
>> I think I'll switch spoken and beeps off, then back on.
>> That makes no scientific sense, but I've had it wake up something that
>> seemed broken.
>> Indi
>>
>>
>> On 6/7/2013 7:29 AM, TheOreoMonster wrote:
>>> I'd agree with you but version21 seems to be back on track somewhat.
>>> Chrome seems  usable on boh blatforms these days as well.
>>> On Jun 7, 2013, at 7:09 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not a clue man, sorry. If it's only in Firefox that you don't get the
>>>> beeps, perhaps they've changed how they're exposing progress bars or
>>>> something? Tbh, I switch those back to spoken feedback in NVDA anyway,
>>>> so haven't noticed a difference. Firefox seems to be running like junk
>>>> in general here though, has been for the last couple of releases.
>>>>
>>>> On 6/7/13, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>>>>> Oh, those dreaded words, size doesn't matter!
>>>>> Let's say, in certain instances, like screenreaders; small and light
>>>>> really helps.
>>>>> I've got totally addicted to doing the NVDA+numPad enter, that acts as
>>>>> a
>>>>> right click on certain selections at the arrow keys.
>>>>> So intuitive.
>>>>> Since you know NVDA, I cannot for the life of me figure out how I lost
>>>>> the spoken percentage and ascenting beeps as I download online.
>>>>> I still get those offline, or when I download from MidiMag, but not
>>>>> online in FireFox 21.
>>>>> I think maybe FireFox 21 somehow broke the beeps, but I also upgraded
>>>>> to
>>>>> version 2013 of NVDA at the same time, and can't find a setting either
>>>>> in FireFox or NVDA to get that audible download percentage back.
>>>>> Got any ideas?
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Indi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/7/2013 4:39 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>>>>> That's not what she said :P
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But yeah, I agree, the combo of Reaper and NVDA feeling so lightweight
>>>>>> and snappy makes a real difference here every day. FWIW, the
>>>>>> experience is as good with System Access too. Whenever I return to my
>>>>>> other DAW, it feels like wading through mud for the first few hours of
>>>>>> a session.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/7/13, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Last night I finally got my $12 joystick GamePad to midi learn synth
>>>>>>> parameters; so I could wobble bass; or radically mangle an arpeggio
>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>> tweaking filter cutoff and filter freq on X and Y axes of a joystick;
>>>>>>> but here's the weird thing.
>>>>>>> I had no success with the Window-Eyes I had tried it with before; so
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> switched to NVDA on my XP music computer; and suddenly everything
>>>>>>> fell
>>>>>>> into place.
>>>>>>> It can't be simply lower CPU load, since the music daw it's on is a
>>>>>>> second generation I7 2600, with way more power than Reaper needs,
>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>> like NVDA is simply friendlier to utilities in certain situations.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, I'm sure NVDA boosts my confidence, since I've got totally
>>>>>>> spoiled
>>>>>>> with its quickness of response after key presses; on this little $380
>>>>>>> AMD machine I use online; so that it makes the older; larger
>>>>>>> screenreaders seem clunky by comparison.
>>>>>>> Yea for the small; yea for the user-written; and yea for the guys in
>>>>>>> Australia that got tired of paying out hundreds of dollars and
>>>>>>> struggling with crashes with their former big corporation
>>>>>>> screenreaders.
>>>>>>> Small is beautiful.
>>>>>>> Indi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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