[RWP] Newby

Chris Belle cb1963 at sbcglobal.net
Fri Jun 7 02:55:05 EDT 2013


Usb2 really wasn't good for audio, because it only went one way and they 
have to poll devices.

So it's something they got by with but you never saw many usb devices with 
high input or out-put counts.

Firewire is decent but not as good as pci or pci express.

I guess that m-audio stuff was sold off after the last driver revission
because if you read about the driver it mentions avid.

So who owns that stuff now?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "TheOreoMonster" <monkeypusher69 at gmail.com>
To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 6:08 AM
Subject: Re: [RWP] Newby


> Just for the record, M-Audio hasn't been owned by avid for about a year or 
> so now. They sold off all their consumer and prosumer brandss during a 
> reorg sometime last year. As an engineer once explained it to me, the 
> reason we saw virtually no USB3, FW800 or PCI Xpress audio inerface is 
> because the extra bandwith  was not needed for audio. USB2, FW400 and PCI 
> already had more than enough bandwidth to do multi track audio. However 
> now that PCI is pretty much dead, we'll probably start to see more PCI 
> Xpress audio cards just cuas its really the only form factor they can use 
> internally now. Though with the bandwith of thunderbolt  being as good as 
> anything on the internal bus just about, it will be interesting to see if 
> it get used alot for audio interfaces.
> On Jun 6, 2013, at 3:05 AM, Chris Belle wrote:
>
>> Yup, that the issue I was  talking about m-audio dropping the ball on 
>> driver development with w64.
>>
>> I have owned every one of the delta cards except the 24-96.
>> but they are all the same chipset and use the same driver package.
>>
>> Too bad, such great work a day hardware.
>>
>> One reason why I still use xp becaus along with my mackie onyx 1640i I 
>> still have a 44 in this machine to do certain things and dump back and 
>> forth, like if I want to go from 96k 24 bit to 44.1 16 bit
>> and not dither, avoiding rounding errors, yes, you can actually hear very 
>> slight pitch variations if you dither sometimes, with non-multiples, but 
>> dumping with a clean analog path you avoid any such issues.
>>
>> So doing it the old school way rules, ofcourse I won't do that for 
>> something big like an audio book, but for music, it's the only way to 
>> fly.
>>
>> Because you can't ask most audio interfaces to do two sampling rates at 
>> once.
>>
>> Anyway, I doubt avid will write a better driver for these good old cards, 
>> so that's just how it goes sometimes.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Snowbarger" 
>> <Snowman at SnowmanRadio.com>
>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 8:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Newby
>>
>>
>>> I have a 2496 in window 7 64, and it occasionally records with  kind of 
>>> a fuzz on the audio.  That's fuzz, not buzz.  I usually get a buzz. 
>>> Anyway, At first, I thought it was my aging ears.  But, it's definitely 
>>> there. Other times, it works great.  No idea why that happens.
>>> Never seen that before.
>>> Has Anybody else?
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Brown" 
>>> <cursebuster at samobile.net>
>>> To: <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 9:34 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Newby
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hmmmm,...I don't seem to have any problems with it,...I'm running 
>>>> w7,...I'll have to go into my computer, and see what drivers i'm 
>>>> using...
>>>> I seem to remember downloading the w7 drivers for the 2496 though...
>>>>
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