[RWP] AHK

Mon Jun 3 22:21:09 EDT 2013

Well, I hate to go back to that topic,
all I can say is that jaws is packed with power, far more than 95 percent of 
people realize.  Yet, it's all in there for those who know how to use it.  I 
run an older version to avoid creeping quality issues.  But, it's phenomenal 
power, a pretty darned good off screen model, plus object navigation, and a 
scripting capability that, while it is arcane, and not a full fledged 
programming language, is very nicely integrated and still quite capable.
I do have NVDA, and appreciate it's smaller footPrint, and more gentle drain 
on system resources.  But, so far, I have not found anything it can do that 
I can't do with jaws, given that I made the object navigation available to 
myself.  If you run HotSpotClicker, the real one, you have it too.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Belle" <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: [RWP] AHK

> One needs to use all three screen-readers to have it all these days.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 9:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [RWP] AHK
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>> You're right, too bad I'm not a jaws user, all due to misguided advice to 
>> get Vocalize to run dos, way way back in the last century.
>> I have Jaws12, and resolve to learn to run it, well, but probably won't 
>> happen, though.
>>  I just found the search function in NVDA, the last thing it didn't have 
>> that made it slightly inferior to Wineyes, and the 2013 NVDA now parks 
>> itself back aligned with the link to a webPage when you exit the webPage; 
>> yet another improvement to discourage ever running anything but slick 
>> little NVDA.
>> The only occasion I ever bring up Wineyes now is to use it's numPad 
>> functions on a very oddly written logOn box.
>> For finding screen coordinates, I may download the 40 minute demo of jaws 
>> again, if the OCR can provide coordinates of all the unknown graphics; to 
>> spot up with your knockOffHotSpotter.
>> thanks,
>> Indi
>>
>> On 6/2/2013 9:22 PM, Jim Snowbarger wrote:
>>> Well, if you know of  anyone who knows how to make AHK find graphics
>>> when it doesn't already know about them, I would sure like to know about
>>> it.
>>> I am definitely not an AHK expert, but I haven't seen anything so far
>>> that makes me think it can do that.  I know there is some feature that
>>> lets you search for an image, but you have to have a copy of that image
>>> ahead of time so it can search for it.  I don't understand how to get
>>> that copy yet. fBut, that process requires somebody to already know what
>>> area of the screen to get it from.
>>> So yeah, if you can connect me with information about how to get AHK to
>>> just create a list of graphics, I would be interested.
>>> Too bad you're not a JAWS user.  <grin>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 8:26 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] AHK
>>>
>>>
>>>> Well, Jim; you show humility about yur programming skills ; but you're
>>>> sure making fast progress with AHK.
>>>> Of course we're all hoping that claim that AHK can automatically
>>>> locate, number and list the bit map graphics,  and  return to them
>>>> when you punch up their number is true.
>>>> I think jaws does that, but we're not all jaws users, and maybe AHK
>>>> can seek out those graphics even after the screens have shifted or
>>>> changed colors, as I've heard from ross it can
>>>> If we get a script that locates graphics; we can try some of them to
>>>> determine their action, even without sighted help, then label them
>>>> according to their purpose.
>>>> What I'd hope for is a kind of universal kiddie script template for us
>>>> real non programmers; that finds the graphics, tags them with numbers,
>>>> lets me return to them; plus a selection of actions; like to type in
>>>> names; click automatically when I select them; or let me click 
>>>> manually.
>>>> An auto spotting script, with user choices and nameing fields would be
>>>> such a blessing.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Indi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6/1/2013 10:14 PM, Jim Snowbarger wrote:
>>>>> It is V3.  The file also contains a version number at the top.
>>>>> No, you can rename the .ahk file to be whatever you want.
>>>>> The data file it generates will be located in folder c:\ahk.
>>>>> It creates a file with a .INI extension, named after the main
>>>>> application.
>>>>> I might be wishing that it was named after the title of the window you
>>>>> are working in.
>>>>> But, your data will probably turn up in c:\ahk\reaper.ini.
>>>>> Its convenient to put the .ahk file there too, but it doesn't matter, 
>>>>> it
>>>>> can be anywhere you want.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 8:59 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] AHK
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been  adding a v1 v2 v3 to each of their titles, or I would have
>>>>>> got confused.
>>>>>> I hope that doesn't harm their running, Jim.
>>>>>> I called this one HotSpotKnockOff_v3.
>>>>>> Which post  was it meant to replace as the correct one?
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Indi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/1/2013 9:46 PM, Jim Snowbarger wrote:
>>>>>>> Sorry, I think I may have distributed the wrong file.  Here is a
>>>>>>> corrected
>>>>>>> link.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3677477/HotSpotKnockoff.ahk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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