[RWP] Automation

Sun Jun 2 23:02:45 EDT 2013

Makes me want one; what a neat name; Whiz Wheel!
I think I will spring for a more complex gamePad, some of which have jog 
wheels.
I don't mind just using a pair of  inc/dec buttons, though, instead of 
wheels, to set pan and volume, if I get their midi number set properly 
in the generic.txt file that defines what each button and joyPad transmits.
Right now no gamePad buttons increment or decrement continuously when 
you stand on them, and all buttons just transmit midi note numbers 
instead of control data.
You know, the joystick/gamePad and control surface transmits go through 
OSC on their way to midi format.
I learned only a little about OSC, but if I understand it; it's a kind 
of translation scheme in text to turn almost anything sent from any 
controller into useable midi messages.
OSC is on by default, both when assigning actions and when using midi 
learn to control plugs under Param in the FX view.
With OSC to help, Jim, I think there's hope for the Peavey controller to 
become useful.
Indi

On 6/2/2013 9:45 PM, Jim Snowbarger wrote:
> Holy cow,  I never thought  of this!  Finally, a good use for wizz wheels!
>
> Gord, how did you do this?  When I try to assign a whizz wheel to an
> action, jaws eats the key stroke and uses it in the usual way.
> Did you have to free it up in the key map first?  Then, where in reaper
> do you assign it?
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Kent" <dbmusic at cybernex.net>
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> Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 3:01 PM
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>> Hi:
>> I know this isn't for everybody, but with my focus 40 braille display,
>> the wiz wheels work well for scrolling volume or pan or whatever and
>> you can move them much more quickly than with the keyboard.
>> Gord
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>> -----Original Message----- From: Indigo
>> Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 12:56 PM
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>> Subject: [RWP] Automation
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>> Jim, here's that Cockos forum post on the same question you had about a
>> macro repeating nudge volume up.
>> Like I sort of remembered, there is a SWS action that nudges volume,
>> with an edit box available somehow for amount of nudge; see the second
>> snip.
>> I believe the statement that SWS extension can't be automated is
>> obsolete now.
>> There are many ways to do this.
>> Maybe velcroing an old mouse onto the midi keyboard; with its scroll
>> wheel's purpose changed with a mouse modifier action, so the scroll
>> wheel raises and lowers track volume.
>> Press another mouse modifier shortcut and the mouse wheel maybe could
>> nudge pan.
>>
>> Another thought is to just do a couple of tiny ordinary nudges, then
>> press a shortcut to change the automation envelope points shape to a
>> steeper ramp.
>> snip:
>> action:
>> Envelope: Set default point shape to fast end
>> 40431
>> End snip.
>>
>> Instead of stacking Nudge Volume up he could have used the action:
>> Repeat Last Action.
>> Here's the cockos forum:
>> :
>> Snip1:
>>
>> Default Write automation with volume nudge in 1db steps?
>>
>> Stock reaper will write automation in .05db steps...
>> SWS extensions will nudge volume in 1db steps but won't write
>> automation...
>>
>> Any way to have my cake and eat it too?
>>
>> Before anyone suggests it, I did make a custom action that looked like
>> this...
>>
>> Track: Nudge volume up
>> Track: Nudge volume up
>> Track: Nudge volume up
>> Track: Nudge volume up
>> Track: Nudge volume up
>> Track: Nudge volume up
>> Track: Nudge volume up
>> Track: Nudge volume up
>> Track: Nudge volume up
>> Track: Nudge volume up
>> Track: Nudge volume up
>> Track: Nudge volume up
>> Track: Nudge volume up
>> Track: Nudge volume up
>> Track: Nudge volume up
>> Track: Nudge volume up
>> Track: Nudge volume up
>> Track: Nudge volume up
>> Track: Nudge volume up
>> Track: Nudge volume up
>> Track: Nudge volume up
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>> But it was a poor performer... ;-)
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>> Was there something specific which made it a poor performer? Too
>> many/too few points added to the envelope, not right kind of ramp shape?
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>> That custom action can surely be made more compact by using Cycle Action
>> editor and LOOP/ENDLOOP instructions
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>> LOOP 20 | Loop --->
>> 40115 | Track: Nudge track volume up
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>> ...but the performance is about the same.
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>> Not at the DAW atm, but isn't there also some way to consolidate all
>> actions into one for purposes of undo/redo? That could perhaps also help.
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>> Snip 2:
>> Download and install SWS Extensions
>> From the main menu, select actions, show actions list, and search for
>> nudge track.
>>
>> You can custom assign those to keys by adding shortcuts for selected
>> action.
>> Then from the extensions menu (command parameters) enter the amount
>> where it says track volume nudge.
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