[RWP] Another Controller for Automation slashcrazy Tweaking

Sat Jun 1 20:07:58 EDT 2013

Dereck, I'm not totally sure, but you could experiment with toggling 
between two Reaper templates, 1 with the BCF2000 set in Mackie Mode 
Universal in preferences/Control Surfaces;
and the other Reaper template with the BCF2000 enabled in 
preferences/midi device.
I haven't read about anybody doing that, so you'll maybe the first to 
try it as an experiment.
By the way, I think you need to tell Reaper about the IO ports of your 
BCF2000, because it's a 2 directional device, both transmitting and 
receiving, while a lowly gamePad only transmits, and has only a single 
out port that reaper detects automatically.
That's the same for the M-Audio Trigger Finger, only transmits, only 1 
output port.
The Edirol PCR-300 only transmits, but has 2 output ports, and needs to 
also be configured as a midi device, because it has music keys as well 
as midi controls.
Indi
On 6/1/2013 5:44 PM, Derek Lane wrote:
> Yes, it is quite easy to use nvda to edit the control servace
> preferences in reaper if you know how to use object nav, and mouse routing.
> My only problem with envelopes is the abrupt way they begin and end.
> There is usually some drastic volume change when you enter automation
> and when you're finished that it makes things more annoying than they
> should be.
> Up to now, I've just exported items to sound forge, where I'll do fades
> to make things pan off in a given direction,m or face items a spesific
> value.
> For slowly etenuating sound, I'd split an item where I wanted the fade
> to begin, and then grow the length of the previous item such that a
> crossfade between a loud and quiet copy of the material exists, creating
> a slow duck.
> Inversely, boosting the volume of a split item, an dgrowing the edge of
> the previous one can create a rise in volume.
> Same for pan.
> I digress from the topic a bit though.
>
> Do you happen to know the differences between write and latch in the
> available automation   settings?
> Trim/off, read  and touch are kind of obvious
> Also, is there an easier way to cycle the bcf from control surface mode
> to being a button and knob box than removing it as a control serfice,
> adding it as a midi device and setting the io appropriately, then
> reversing the process when you want it to be a control serfice again?
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
> Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 5:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [RWP] Another Controller for Automation slashcrazy Tweaking
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>> It depends on how you enable a device that transmits midi.
>> If it's a keyboard that is not supported as a control surface; but has
>> just a fader or a couple of knobs  that transmit midi data, you just
>> enable it in preferences midi devices; to use as a midi device, and
>> also place a checkmark on use as a midi controller.
>> For the BCF2000, you need to go to preferences control surfaces; and
>> enable it not as a BCF2000 in control surfaces; but as a Mackie
>> Control Universal.
>> I think you'll need to use your jaws routed to PC cursor, or
>> Window-Eyes numberPad shortcuts, to find that Mackie Control Universal
>> setting, but I don't remember the exact procedure, since it's been
>> ages since I enabled the BCF2000.
>> I haven't tried Reaper's control surface settings with NVDA, so don't
>> know if it sees all those settings with its object navigation.
>> You're right, I should start a music track playing on track 1, lower
>> its volume with the down arrow, so I can simultaneously hear speech;
>> press ctrl+r to toggle repeat on, then load an effect; like ReaEQ.
>> Then I'll open Param, go to parameters list Midi learn and assign the
>> gamePad's joystick to control an easily heard equalizer parameter;
>> like ReaEQ's  high shelf.
>> When you raise the values on the high shelf all the high hat sounds
>> are muffled and when you lower the values the highs become
>> exaggerated, if i didn't get that backward.
>> Anyway, whichever way it goes; it's easy to hear when a midi CC
>> message is working in ReaEQ; where a relatively small change makes a
>> huge difference in sound.
>> Thanks,
>> Indi
>>
>>
>> On 6/1/2013 4:51 PM, Derek Lane wrote:
>>> Sounds to me like you'll have better luck automating effects than
>>> automating volume and pan, because you have to enable a midi input for
>>> controling things like that, and tell reaper the  midi i/o for your
>>> device is a control serfice for volume/pan to work.
>>> This, granted, from 1 days experimentation with a behringer bcf2000,
>>> using indigos instructions he posted a few months ago.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 9:49 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Another Controller for Automation slashcrazy Tweaking
>>>
>>>
>>>> Tab down from the field where you enable your midi keyboard; in
>>>> preferences; and there's a button to assign a joystick.
>>>> I'm going to study the procedures today, but I remember that you can
>>>> assign joystick axes  to tweak  various things, like mod; pitch bend;
>>>> volume or pan; or any other midi cc message; and you can assign
>>>> buttons to a range of options.
>>>> These joysticks are meant to move around with 1 thumb each; on a
>>>> little mushroom shaped stick, with only about 1 inch of movement in
>>>> any direction; so I'm sure it'll take time to learn not to
>>>> overcontrol, to get smooth tweaks; as when automating.
>>>>
>>>> You could edit automation envelopes afterward to reduce number of
>>>> points to smooth out raggedness
>>>> .I once assigned a short throw fader on a control surface to the
>>>> entire 7 or 8 octave range of pitch bend, which was great fun; good
>>>> for instant supersonic squeals or ultra deep blasts in pop music.
>>>> Indi
>>>>
>>>> On 6/1/2013 9:11 AM, Alexander Westphal wrote:
>>>>> Wow! And how can I integrate it into Reaper?
>>>>>
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