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Sham Beam
sham.beam at gmail.com
Tue Jul 9 20:01:55 EDT 2013
Thanks for all these details Chris. I've copied this email and put in my
notes for working on Poise.
> .ini files we can edit are good too.
How about XML files? Poise uses XML for saving patch data.
Thanks,
Shannon
On 9/07/2013 6:38 PM, Chris Belle wrote:
> Ok, here's what I know generally about accessibility issues which may
> or may not help you.
> For windows, if standard controls are used, thken about anything can
> be made accessible,
> but since many of these cross platform tools like dot net framework
> and such are used to build these things, that is done primarily with
> pixels, and that's not so accessible.
> So we end up using screen-scraping tools which build second menus and
> route the mouse for us to click on things or lock on knobs to make
> things go.
> If we're lucky, then clicking on a knob will give keyboard access to
> the knob, and we can turn it that way.
> Such as what happens with sessiondrummer3.
> Tooltips that bring up text are good, our screen-readers can deal with
> that pretty well, but in general, the more keyboard access the better.
> If one can pull down menus from a keyboard, or even if we do have to
> do some mouse clicks, if we can run the mouse around the screen and
> text speaks, then that is good.
> .ini files we can edit are good too.
> Also giving midi cc access is good, and documentation in plain text or
> rtf, anything but that blasted pdf format,
> blind folks don't like pdf in general 'grin'.
> Also, many vst's expose automatable parameters.
> in reaper and in sonar in the inspector pane, and the synth rack,
> and the fx view in reaper where we can adjust values for things.
> So allowing that to happen is great.
> Many plug-ins which are only pixels in the native ui offer enough
> access with automatible parms that we can use them even if they aren't
> scripted for.
> Ok, there's a guy on here Roy, who you probably know of already, he's
> a bit more of a programmer than I am, well, a lot more,
> and he can talk turkey with you.
> So can Jim the snowman, who's the big daddy
> jaws dude who made hsc for us, the magic tool that let's jaws users
> build their own access for difficult plugs.
> He's also started using hsc,
> which is a more generic helper app which isn't screen-reader dependant
> so everyone can come to the party as it were.
> Ok, I've blathered on enough for now.
> Time to dive in to pois.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Sham Beam <mailto:sham.beam at gmail.com>
> *To:* Reapers Without Peepers <mailto:rwp at reaaccess.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 09, 2013 1:12 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [RWP] Mailing list
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> Hi Chris,
>
> Poise is a drum sampler VST for Windows. Details can be seen here
> www.onesmallclue.com <http://www.onesmallclue.com>
>
> Any help will be appreciated. I'm entirely new to building
> software with accessibility in mind. Google has provided a few
> leads which I'm following up now. It would be great to have
> someone for advice with the finer details.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Shannon
>
>
>
> On 9/07/2013 3:20 PM, Chris Belle wrote:
>> Hi Shannon, Chris Belle here.
>> I kind of missed this whole bois thing, but I am an advanced
>> user, using multiple screen-readers, and have done a bit of
>> access work myself with third party utils
>> like ahk and hsc, though you couldn't put me in the programming
>> arena, not quite there yet.
>> Give me your website and I'll get educated, and help if I can.
>> It's sure nice to have folks like you in our corner.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Sham Beam <mailto:sham.beam at gmail.com>
>> *To:* rwp at reaaccess.com <mailto:rwp at reaaccess.com>
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 08, 2013 9:57 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [RWP] Mailing list
>>
>> Hello list,
>>
>> Thanks for the welcome Goldfinga,
>>
>> As Goldfinga says I've been working on Poise to improve it's
>> accessibility. I've made a couple small changes already based
>> on couple
>> suggestions. At the moment I'm working on labeling the
>> graphics so the
>> GUI can be used with screen readers.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Shannon
>>
>> www.onesmallclue.com <http://www.onesmallclue.com>
>> shannon at onesmallclue.com <mailto:shannon at onesmallclue.com>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/07/2013 10:50 PM, Goldfinga Productions wrote:
>> > We've made things easier. We will just use this list.
>> Welcome Shannon... Now, where are the programmers? LOL
>> >
>> > GF
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Jul 8, 2013, at 5:38 AM, Kevin Reeves
>> <lists at kevinreeves.net <mailto:lists at kevinreeves.net>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Yeah. Let's do it.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Will you use something like Google Groups or something?
>> >>
>> >> Kevin
>> >>
>> >>
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