[RWP] Getting forward
Stephan Merk
dl7fos at hotmail.com
Sun Jul 7 06:25:21 EDT 2013
Indi, I mean not to access the VST panel with the careen reader, I only mean
how can I bring it up if I had close it. However, the tip using numpad is
very helpful. My problem is that if I close the panel using alt+F4 to have
only the Reaper window open, I have the track created and can play the
instrument but if I want to make some changes, I need to see the panel again
except for an alternative control via NVDA.
Then, I have another thought: Sorry that I compare everything with my MPC
but this workflow I have understood so far.
On MPC, if I create a sequence using a pad sound, I press record and play
it. The sequence will looped depending of the number of beats.
'After recording, MPC switches to overdub mode so that I can play along more
notes or - and that's interesting - using the Q-Link knobs to modulate
parameters, e. g. a high pass filter. So if I start close the filter and
open it up, the movement of the knob will be stored and played along with
the beat.
In Reaper, I found that as like an old tape machine, I can overwrite
existing parts, but not can add something like faders, parameters or
additional notes. Is there such a feature to overdub something?
Viele Grüße
--
Stephan Merk, www.merkst.de
-----Original Message-----
From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Indigo
Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 2:42 PM
To: Reapers Without Peepers
Subject: Re: [RWP] Getting forward
Stephan, if you want to scan a VST plug's interface, in Reaper's FX Chaining
View, try everything you can at NVDA's number pad.
I've found that hearing Unknown is not the end of the world, try NVDA+7 to
learn if there's anything there; try using NVDA+4 5 6 to get exactly onto a
word or graphic, then press NVDA+numPad Enter.
In other words, do everything you can think of on the numPad.
exactly
On 7/6/2013 3:35 AM, Stephan Merk wrote:
> Hi all, hi Indi,
>
> thanks at first for your time and help. I am very familiar with screen
> readers than over 20 years and know their work. But in my system at
> the time I only use NVDA because I hate the highly integration and the
> many many problems regarding this. In the last 20 years I had much
> computers of customers on witch the OS was gone related to screen
> reader issues, many lacks of older versions and the fact, that they
> all wait for paid update if Microsoft installs their new browsers. ;-)
> So I use NVDA and support them with some money and they don't
> disappoint me with their work. ;-) However, it's truly a benefit with
> integrated OCR, this was also be discussed in 1991 by Dr. Karl-Heinz
> Weirich for a solution to grab the screen information. But in this
> time the computers are as slow as they are not able to emulate several
> synths as today. ;-)
>
> At the time I won't spend much more money since I don't know really if
> Reaper fits al my needs. At hardware I have a microKEY 61 which has
> not the benefits to have knobs and buttons, but the MPKmini of Akai
> Pro does have 8 knobs in two parts and 8 pads also in two banks. They
> also can send MIDI control changes. As I think, the MPC Ren hardware
> can also be used as a MIDI controller. But my simple problem is that I
> haven't much space to set all around my computer. So the MPC is placed
> in another corner of the room and I have to walk to my different work
> places. The microKEY is placed on the desktop so I have it in reach.
>
> SO in that case I thought about using a controller. MidiMap of
> Novation I know and for a short time I owned a Ultranova which has
> also knobs and could be used with Midimap which was included I think.
> But this was before I had Reaper and the MPC so I sent it back.
>
> What I saw is that Reaper can use an usual joystick for MIDI commands,
> I will try to use this with my xBox controller.
>
> About the VST window it is not a great problem use this with
> magnification but I miss the feature to open it up. If I close it, the
> track is set and the plugin window is away so I can't make any
> changes. ;-)
>
>
> Viele Grüße
>
> --
> Stephan Merk, www.merkst.de
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Indigo
> Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 1:29 AM
> To: Reapers Without Peepers
> Subject: Re: [RWP] Getting forward
>
> Well, opening the VST window and making changes is what all of us here
> are attempting to do.
> Many of Reaper's bundled effects are very accessible, that is, display
> all their parameters at your tab and arrow keys.
> Some VST plugs, like those by Native Instruments, are not friendly at
> all, full of bit map images, that is, little photos, that a
> screenreader can't read.
> Some of us use the number pad cursors in Jaws and Window-Eyes to find
> screen buttons.
> Some use Jaws OCR;; Optical Character Recognition, to find screen
> buttons and label bit map icons.
> NVDA just got its own OCR.
> I just bought the Novation Nocturn controller and AutoMap, $99 USD,
> which actually does automatically map all my VST plugs and assigns
> their buttons and icons to the little Nocturn, with its 8 knobs and 8
buttons.
> Alchemy synth has more than 27 pages, each page with 8 knobs and 8
> buttons that control all kinds of parameters in Alchemy.
> All this is what we call access, and we'll eventually have as much
> access as any sighted user.
> Indi
>
>
>
> On 7/5/2013 3:15 PM, Stephan Merk wrote:
>> ...and the next questions...
>>
>> How I open the VST window and make program changes?
>>
>>
>>
>> Viele Grüße
>>
>> --
>> Stephan Merk, www.merkst.de
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Indigo
>> Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 7:40 PM
>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Getting forward
>>
>> Reaper lets you advance or jog through recorded audio by pressing and
>> holding your left and right arrow keys.
>> Stop pressing left or right arrow when you arrive where you want to
be.
>> As for measures, when you're all the way left on a track, by hitting
>> w or home key, you're at measure 1 beat 1, then press your page down
>> key to advance.
>> Measures and beats will be spoken as the cursor moves along the timeline.
>> Same when you press page up, you hear the measure and beat as the
>> cursor moves back to the left.
>> Press the end key to go to the end of track, and the length of track
>> is spoken.
>>
>> On 7/5/2013 12:41 PM, Stephan Merk wrote:
>>> Hi Indi,
>>>
>>> the MPC Renaissance is not just a drum machine, it is a combined
>>> Groove Box/Sample Player/Drum Machine and a very intuitive and
>>> complete sequencing unit. You have a hardware controller with it's
>>> own display, audio engine, pads and touch sensitive control knobs as
>>> well as the software component which is the heart of the MPC. But if
>>> you want to, you can throw the PC into a treasure because all is
>>> controlled by the hardware. That gives you the feeling of a real
>>> hardware machine and it's workflow combined with all you expect from
>>> a real DAW: Audio and MIDI sync, VST, also controlled by the
>>> hardware, programming like the real MPC's but with the benefit to
>>> use also the mouse in the DAW frontend on the computer. But the
>>> software isn't accessible and I have to use the hardware with a
magnifying glass.
>>> However this solution fits all my needs, are they some issues which
>>> I want to solve with Reaper. The first is the XLN Audio software
>>> which I cannot really control by the MPC hardware because of missing
>>> program change commands. I can't chose a drum kit as I like, as well
>>> as different piano types. Because of the migration to 64-Bit, some
>>> 32-Bit VST's won't work anymore since in the 32-Bit release. In
>>> Reaper the 32-Bit VST Bridge can handle all of them,
>>> x64 as well as x86 plugins.
>>>
>>> Because of my experiences with much sequencers and rhythm generators
>>> and the known workflow using patterns and songs, creating a loop for
>>> 8 bars and set the notes as I want to, delete them or use the step
>>> sequencers, I'm very familiar with this and it's a workflow which
>>> only
>> needs a few buttons.
>>> Example: Triggering a drum pattern, delete a hi-hat, the same with
>>> melody tracks with the connected keyboard. IF it's ready, copy the
>>> loop and re-construct it to a break, fill-in or whatever.
>>>
>>> In Reaper, it seems that I have only one measure from starting point
>>> till the ending point and I have to measure the song in this way. As
>>> you described, I have to look into the editor, find out each note by
>>> searching (not by hearing as in the MPC) and telete it manually. If
>>> I have a song with
>>> 32 bars of the same groove, I have to re-create it 32 times or maybe
>>> I can mark, copy and paste it. But with much, much more key commands
>>> except for one simple erase key on the MPC.
>>>
>>> It's hard to explain, but it seems to me if someone changes from a
>>> bicycle to a big truck. :D But both wil get you into the goal, the
>>> truck not even much faster. ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>> Viele Grüße
>>>
>>> --
>>> Stephan Merk, www.merkst.de
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Indigo
>>> Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 6:29 PM
>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Getting forward
>>>
>>> You are suffering from comparing Reaper to your drum machine moves
>>> from the Akai MPC.
>>> No, Reaper is not as simple to use as a drum machine, but you can't
>>> do detailed editing in a drum machine; like you can in Reaper.
>>> Just learn the couple of shortcuts to get into Reaper's midi editor,
>>> and you'll soon make note changes as quick as on the MPC.
>>> Indi
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/5/2013 6:16 AM, Stephan Merk wrote:
>>>> Hi Indi,
>>>>
>>>> that sounds a little complex. I remember on Voyetra about a similar
>>>> way, a piano roll editor, in which the notes are played if I went
>>>> arount with the arrow keys. But here, as well as on the MPC Ren, I
>>>> can hold the erase button together with the wrong note and key, so
>>>> it's away. A much faster way I think. I guess that's not really
>>>> possible in
>>> Reaper?
>>>>
>>>> However, I'll try out your steps you wrote.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Viele Grüße
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Stephan Merk, www.merkst.de
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Indigo
>>>> Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 4:34 AM
>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Getting forward
>>>>
>>>> I think I understand what you want.
>>>> Do you want to delete or edit 1 wrong note in a track, really 1
>>>> wrong note in an item?
>>>> You go to the midi editor.
>>>> First select the track, by up/down arrowing to it.
>>>> Then select the item that has the wrong note.
>>>> either press shift+A or ctrl+shift+right arrow to select an item.
>>>> With the item you want to edit selected, press ctrl+alt+E.
>>>> You will hear the words midi editor.
>>>> Press enter and you are in the midi editor.
>>>> Press alt+V to bring up the view menu.
>>>> Arrow to Show as list, and press enter.
>>>> Now you will have a very neat display, with the midi notes events
>>>> all laid out in lists on the track's time line.
>>>> Each note/event list is numbered.
>>>> Press your tab key to sort through the note events, and at your
>>>> arrow keys you can change values, like the note's pitch, position
>>>> on the time line, note length, and more.
>>>> If your note on velocity is too high or low, change it at the value
>> field.
>>>> If the note number is wrong, so you hear the wrong drum sound,
>>>> change it at the value field at your arrow keys.
>>>> When finished editing, tab down to OK and press enter.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As to recording only part of an item, without losing the part that
>>>> is correct, select the track, then select the item, as described above.
>>>> Use your right and left arrows to move the cursor to the place the
>>>> recording went wrong; then press the letter S to split the original
>>>> item into two items.
>>>> One of the now 2 items will contain the recording you want to keep
>>>> and the other will contain the recording you want to redo.
>>>> You can now delete the recording you don't want to keep, if you
>>>> like; and record a new item correctly.
>>>> I hope this helps,
>>>> Indi
>>>> On 7/4/2013 4:29 PM, Stephan Merk wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Now I tried something more and found how I can create multiple tracks.
>>>>> I did this as follows:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Inserting Virtual Instrument with Ctrl+Ins, in my case
>>>>> Addictive
>> Keys.
>>>>> 2. Metronome set to on and press R for Record and play the things
>>>>> I
>> like.
>>>>> 3. Stop with space bar, I was asked to save the file which I were
>>>>> able to rename or same as described. In my case Addictive Keys.
>>>>> 4. After Track 1 was created, now inserting Track 2 with Addictive
>>>>> Drums as I did above.
>>>>> 5. Reaper asked me to create several tracks for each instrument.
>>>>> If I do answer this with Yes, a track for each instrument will be
created:
>>>>> Bass, Snare, Tom etc.
>>>>> 6. Now my first stumble: If I press any key also drums and piano
>>>>> was
>>>> played.
>>>>> If I press record and Reaper warns me to record multiple tracks,
>>>>> the first track was overwritten. So I had to do is uncheck the rec
>>>>> marker on Track 1 before recording the next tracks.
>>>>> 7. To do this, select arrow keys till you hear Track 1. Press Tab
>>>>> untel Rec mode or so is spoken, state is on. Now press space to
>>>>> change the state to Off and - very necessary - press Enter to save
>>>>> this
>>> state.
>>>>> 8. Then, after recording, you will only record the drum tracks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, there are some issues I have:
>>>>> 1. Non-pattern based sequencers need to copy a drum style for some
>>>>> bars, but how?
>>>>> 2. During recording, on my MPC I was helped by fast forwarding
>>>>> through the track and clear out one special note or key. Is this
>>>>> possible in Reaper, too?
>>>>> 3. Is there a feature to overdub, e. g. to record partial melodies?
>>>>>
>>>>> But nice to see that it's working now! ^^
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Viele Grüße
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Stephan Merk, www.merkst.de
>>>>>
>>>>>
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