[RWP] Getting forward

Sat Jul 6 07:20:33 EDT 2013

Reaper treats audio and midi the same.
Yes audio is what you record from a microphone, and you can record midi 
from a midi keyboard, but in Reaper audio and midi are all just on 
tracks, not much difference.

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On 7/5/2013 3:11 PM, Stephan Merk wrote:
> Indi,
>
> I made some testing...
> I could mark and delete a track and insert something. So I have to compare a
> MIDI track as an audio track which I could record though a microphone.
> However, I don't really understand how Reaper organizes the track. Beats or
> Seconds? So I deleted a part and the rest was moved independent from beats.
>
> Where again was the feature to quantize?
>
>
> Viele Grüße
>
> --
> Stephan Merk, www.merkst.de
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Indigo
> Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 7:40 PM
> To: Reapers Without Peepers
> Subject: Re: [RWP] Getting forward
>
> Reaper lets you advance or jog through recorded audio by pressing and
> holding your left and right arrow keys.
>    Stop pressing left or right arrow when you arrive where you want to be.
> As for measures, when you're all the way left on a track, by hitting w or
> home key, you're at measure 1 beat 1, then press your page down key to
> advance.
> Measures and beats will be spoken as the cursor moves along the timeline.
> Same when you press page up, you hear the measure and beat as the cursor
> moves back to the left.
> Press the end key to go to the end of track, and the length of track is
> spoken.
>
> On 7/5/2013 12:41 PM, Stephan Merk wrote:
>> Hi Indi,
>>
>> the MPC Renaissance is not just a drum machine, it is a combined
>> Groove Box/Sample Player/Drum Machine and a very intuitive and
>> complete sequencing unit. You have a hardware controller with it's own
>> display, audio engine, pads and touch sensitive control knobs as well
>> as the software component which is the heart of the MPC. But if you
>> want to, you can throw the PC into a treasure because all is
>> controlled by the hardware. That gives you the feeling of a real
>> hardware machine and it's workflow combined with all you expect from a
>> real DAW: Audio and MIDI sync, VST, also controlled by the hardware,
>> programming like the real MPC's but with the benefit to use also the
>> mouse in the DAW frontend on the computer. But the software isn't
>> accessible and I have to use the hardware with a magnifying glass.
>> However this solution fits all my needs, are they some issues which I
>> want to solve with Reaper. The first is the XLN Audio software which I
>> cannot really control by the MPC hardware because of missing program
>> change commands. I can't chose a drum kit as I like, as well as
>> different piano types. Because of the migration to 64-Bit, some 32-Bit
>> VST's won't work anymore since in the 32-Bit release. In Reaper the
>> 32-Bit VST Bridge can handle all of them,
>> x64 as well as x86 plugins.
>>
>> Because of my experiences with much sequencers and rhythm generators
>> and the known workflow using patterns and songs, creating a loop for 8
>> bars and set the notes as I want to, delete them or use the step
>> sequencers, I'm very familiar with this and it's a workflow which only
> needs a few buttons.
>> Example: Triggering a drum pattern, delete a hi-hat, the same with
>> melody tracks with the connected keyboard. IF it's ready, copy the
>> loop and re-construct it to a break, fill-in or whatever.
>>
>> In Reaper, it seems that I have only one measure from starting point
>> till the ending point and I have to measure the song in this way. As
>> you described, I have to look into the editor, find out each note by
>> searching (not by hearing as in the MPC) and telete it manually. If I
>> have a song with
>> 32 bars of the same groove, I have to re-create it 32 times or maybe I
>> can mark, copy and paste it. But with much, much more key commands
>> except for one simple erase key on the MPC.
>>
>> It's hard to explain, but it seems to me if someone changes from a
>> bicycle to a big truck. :D But both wil get you into the goal, the
>> truck not even much faster. ;-)
>>
>>
>> Viele Grüße
>>
>> --
>> Stephan Merk, www.merkst.de
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Indigo
>> Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 6:29 PM
>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Getting forward
>>
>> You are suffering from comparing Reaper to your drum machine moves
>> from the Akai MPC.
>> No, Reaper is not as simple to use as a drum machine, but you can't do
>> detailed editing in a drum machine; like you can in Reaper.
>> Just learn the couple of shortcuts to get into Reaper's midi editor,
>> and you'll soon make note changes as quick as on the MPC.
>> Indi
>>
>>
>> On 7/5/2013 6:16 AM, Stephan Merk wrote:
>>> Hi Indi,
>>>
>>> that sounds a little complex. I remember on Voyetra about a similar
>>> way, a piano roll editor, in which the notes are played if I went
>>> arount with the arrow keys. But here, as well as on the MPC Ren, I
>>> can hold the erase button together with the wrong note and key, so
>>> it's away. A much faster way I think. I guess that's not really
>>> possible in
>> Reaper?
>>>
>>> However, I'll try out your steps you wrote.
>>>
>>>
>>> Viele Grüße
>>>
>>> --
>>> Stephan Merk, www.merkst.de
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Indigo
>>> Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 4:34 AM
>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Getting forward
>>>
>>> I think I understand what you want.
>>> Do you want to delete or edit 1 wrong note in a track, really 1 wrong
>>> note in an item?
>>> You go to the midi editor.
>>> First select the track, by up/down arrowing to it.
>>> Then select the item that has the wrong note.
>>> either press shift+A or ctrl+shift+right arrow to select an item.
>>> With the item you want to edit selected, press ctrl+alt+E.
>>> You will hear the words midi editor.
>>> Press enter and you are in the midi editor.
>>> Press alt+V to bring up the view menu.
>>> Arrow to Show as list, and press enter.
>>> Now you will have a very neat display, with the midi notes events all
>>> laid out in lists on the track's time line.
>>> Each note/event list  is numbered.
>>> Press your tab key to sort through the note events, and at your arrow
>>> keys you can change values, like the note's pitch, position on the
>>> time line, note length, and more.
>>> If your note on velocity is too high or low, change it at the value
> field.
>>> If the note number is wrong, so you hear the wrong drum sound, change
>>> it at the value field at your arrow keys.
>>> When finished editing, tab down to OK and press enter.
>>>
>>>
>>> As to recording only part of an item, without losing the part that is
>>> correct, select the track, then select the item, as described above.
>>> Use your right and left arrows to move the cursor to the place the
>>> recording went wrong; then press the letter S to split the original
>>> item into two items.
>>> One of the now 2 items will contain the recording you want to keep
>>> and the other will contain the recording you want to redo.
>>> You can now delete the recording you don't want to keep, if you like;
>>> and record a new item correctly.
>>> I hope this helps,
>>> Indi
>>> On 7/4/2013 4:29 PM, Stephan Merk wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Now I tried something more and found how I can create multiple tracks.
>>>> I did this as follows:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Inserting Virtual Instrument with Ctrl+Ins, in my case Addictive
> Keys.
>>>> 2. Metronome set to on and press R for Record and play the things I
> like.
>>>> 3. Stop with space bar, I was asked to save the file which I were
>>>> able to rename or same as described. In my case Addictive Keys.
>>>> 4. After Track 1 was created, now inserting Track 2 with Addictive
>>>> Drums as I did above.
>>>> 5. Reaper asked me to create several tracks for each instrument. If
>>>> I do answer this with Yes, a track for each instrument will be created:
>>>> Bass, Snare, Tom etc.
>>>> 6. Now my first stumble: If I press any key also drums and piano was
>>> played.
>>>> If I press record and Reaper warns me to record multiple tracks, the
>>>> first track was overwritten. So I had to do is uncheck the rec
>>>> marker on Track 1 before recording the next tracks.
>>>> 7. To do this, select arrow keys till you hear Track 1. Press Tab
>>>> untel Rec mode or so is spoken, state is on. Now press space to
>>>> change the state to Off and - very necessary - press Enter to save
>>>> this
>> state.
>>>> 8. Then, after recording, you will only record the drum tracks.
>>>>
>>>> Now, there are some issues I have:
>>>> 1. Non-pattern based sequencers need to copy a drum style for some
>>>> bars, but how?
>>>> 2. During recording, on my MPC I was helped by fast forwarding
>>>> through the track and clear out one special note or key. Is this
>>>> possible in Reaper, too?
>>>> 3. Is there a feature to overdub, e. g. to record partial melodies?
>>>>
>>>> But nice to see that it's working now! ^^
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Viele Grüße
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Stephan Merk, www.merkst.de
>>>>
>>>>
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